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re: Current LSU players you were wrong about - mine is Kaleb Jackson.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 5:34 pm to WylieTiger
Posted on 1/3/25 at 5:34 pm to WylieTiger
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Put him in the slot on certain downs if he can catch
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Posted on 1/3/25 at 5:38 pm to OldManHenry
The thing ive learned about players in a bigtime program like LSU is that there is a very slim margin in alot of cases that separates the players who start or get alot of PT and the ones who dont. It could be something as little as a simple fault in an aspect of their technique that needs to be fixed or little intangible things that factor into it as well, such as attitude, lack of grasping or executing their roles on certain schemes/plays, work ethic and toughness...or they just dont fit into our scheme the way that some other players do. Im NOT saying in any way that any of these factors have to do with jacksons lack of PT thus far but just providing some examples of how small the margin is sometimes. In short...some players take longer to develop into the level of player that they have to be in order to be a heavy contributor at programs like LSU. That is all.
With all due respect to jackson tho...durham is a beast and i dont see him ever beating him out for PT while hes here. Durham is an absolute stud.
With all due respect to jackson tho...durham is a beast and i dont see him ever beating him out for PT while hes here. Durham is an absolute stud.
This post was edited on 1/3/25 at 5:56 pm
Posted on 1/3/25 at 5:42 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
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Put him in the slot on certain downs if he can catch
Hell frickin no. Have u seen or do u have any idea the number of exceptionally talented slot type recievers that LSU has here already/coming in for next season? Anderson, brown and thomas just off the top of my head are PROVEN and tailor-made slot recievers. Jackson is a RB.
This post was edited on 1/3/25 at 5:50 pm
Posted on 1/3/25 at 5:48 pm to ImayGoLesMiles
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Hell frickin no. Have u seen or do u have any idea the number of exceptionally talented slot type recievers that LSU has here already/coming in for next season?
Why are you replying to me? I'm not the one who said that.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 5:49 pm to FATBOY TIGER
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Vision and slow first step
That's called having a slow processor, may not be fixable or he would have made much more progress in 2024.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 5:50 pm to OldManHenry
Partly pass pro and partly running from the pistol/ shotgun and not behind the QB. Less time to make cuts and the need for a burst to an opening hole.
He would have had more success as an I back or one of two.
Single back out of the pistol requires skills he hasn’t developed yet. I think he can though.
He would have had more success as an I back or one of two.
Single back out of the pistol requires skills he hasn’t developed yet. I think he can though.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 5:51 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
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Why are you replying to me? I'm not the one who said that.
Didnt mean it like that and it wasnt directed to u. I saw it quoted in ur post and quoted it to use in my post. Sorry to upset u. Meant nothing. Have an upvote for ur troubles.
This post was edited on 1/3/25 at 5:54 pm
Posted on 1/3/25 at 7:50 pm to OldManHenry
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" ...He runs right into the back of the O-line or a defender. He has no vision ..." I ain't Joe Brady but it seems most of those run plays gave Kaleb little chance of success.
But does only Kaleb get these plays “with little chance of success”?
Kaleb: 44 carries At 3.4 ypc
Josh: 117 at 4.1 ypc
Caden: 150 at 5.4 ypc
At some point it’s on him to produce.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 9:34 pm to OldManHenry
Perkins
Posted on 1/3/25 at 10:46 pm to OldManHenry
Whoever said “slow first step” is right.
Difference between him and Durham is exactly that.
Durham hauls arse to and through the hole, which is why he is hard to tackle and busts big plays. Getting through the hole quick keeps LBs from having a good angle, and makes safeties have to come from out wide on the edge to tackle someone already at or near full speed.
Jackson tiptoes trying to read and then just forces things old school through the linemen.
He is one that needs to be told where to run it and trust his linemen to make the play. Durham doesn’t GAF where the hole is, he runs to any shred of daylight he sees.
Difference between him and Durham is exactly that.
Durham hauls arse to and through the hole, which is why he is hard to tackle and busts big plays. Getting through the hole quick keeps LBs from having a good angle, and makes safeties have to come from out wide on the edge to tackle someone already at or near full speed.
Jackson tiptoes trying to read and then just forces things old school through the linemen.
He is one that needs to be told where to run it and trust his linemen to make the play. Durham doesn’t GAF where the hole is, he runs to any shred of daylight he sees.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 11:32 pm to OldManHenry
Shelton Sampson for me
Posted on 1/4/25 at 7:50 am to WylieTiger
quote:wth
Put him in the slot on certain downs if he can catch.
Posted on 1/4/25 at 8:12 am to DCtiger1
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He runs right into the back of the O-line or a defender. He has no vision
Saints first round pick Vaughn Dunbar!
1992 21st pick after 2,500 yard senior season and sixth place finish in the Heisman. He always carried right where the play was designed to go, even if there was an offensive lineman there. Ended his pro career with less than 1,000 yards.
This post was edited on 1/4/25 at 8:13 am
Posted on 1/4/25 at 9:03 am to NotaStarGazer
I haven't given up on him yet. Play calling for him was a factor, and it was bad. Give the guy some calls to get him in space. We know he can be a beast if he gets a head of steam. We used him wrong this year.
Posted on 1/4/25 at 9:06 am to cbree88
He looked kind of slow and horrible.
Hope this helps
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How did he look the prior year?
I haven't given up on him.
Hope this helps
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How did he look the prior year?
I haven't given up on him.
Posted on 1/4/25 at 9:17 am to OldManHenry
Few carries, and the carries he got had no place to run. No holes by the OL and his unability to 'bounce' into open space, which could be his lack of lateral ability or his lack of vision, or both.
I, like you, thought he would be our feature back this year, and wow, was he a disappointment. Considering our lack of depth at LB, I often wondered if he is better suited, size and strength wise, to play defense. It worked for Devon White, who was a similar size and RB in HS.
Too bad for LSU that we can't find a place to utilize his size, strength and speed. I am happy he stayed around, and who knows, maybe he will see the 'light' and be the beast you and I, and others, thought he would be.
I'll be pleasantly surprised if he doesn't enter the portal.
I, like you, thought he would be our feature back this year, and wow, was he a disappointment. Considering our lack of depth at LB, I often wondered if he is better suited, size and strength wise, to play defense. It worked for Devon White, who was a similar size and RB in HS.
Too bad for LSU that we can't find a place to utilize his size, strength and speed. I am happy he stayed around, and who knows, maybe he will see the 'light' and be the beast you and I, and others, thought he would be.
I'll be pleasantly surprised if he doesn't enter the portal.
Posted on 1/4/25 at 9:34 am to OldManHenry
My memory is awful but didn't Jackson mess up a 4th down play or something where we called a time out and for some odd reason trotted him out there off the bench cold and he messed it up? After that, it seemed like it was the doghouse for him.
I'd rather see Durham in than Jackson or Williams this year, but I don't know the extent of Durham's foot injury.
Football is so hit or miss with injuries AND attitude coming into play. Sometimes it's just not a fit. Hopefully Jackson finds a way to contribute because I wish every Tiger an award winning season which means a better overall team.
I'd rather see Durham in than Jackson or Williams this year, but I don't know the extent of Durham's foot injury.
Football is so hit or miss with injuries AND attitude coming into play. Sometimes it's just not a fit. Hopefully Jackson finds a way to contribute because I wish every Tiger an award winning season which means a better overall team.
Posted on 1/4/25 at 9:39 am to OldManHenry
One reason I have given up on Brian Kelly is because he ran KJ in the USC game who did just what other commenters here said “runs into the back of the lineman” and falls down. Durham, who had only 6 carries in the USC game, is in a class above Jackson. Why is that? How can a coach not have the eyeballs to see the apparent night and day difference between the two.
This is not the first player BK has sold us a bill of goods on, so that’s why I find his coaching prowess questionable at best. Too little too late. Durham as our starter against USC, we win that game. Hands down.
This is not the first player BK has sold us a bill of goods on, so that’s why I find his coaching prowess questionable at best. Too little too late. Durham as our starter against USC, we win that game. Hands down.
Posted on 1/4/25 at 9:46 am to Flyingtiger82
Coulda woulda shoulda...I hate those words.
The entire offensive coaching staff are involved in rotations. The USC game sucked but it sucked across the board and to blame CK, is a bit harsh.
He was rightfully livid after game...
Like everyone has been saying, Kaleb lacks that quick twitch at line but that's not his role.
Kaleb needs a bit of steam before he pounds the Defense. Durham and Josh don't..
Next year with Berry, Durham we are set...but I'd still like to see Kaleb get more rushes out of the I formation...
The entire offensive coaching staff are involved in rotations. The USC game sucked but it sucked across the board and to blame CK, is a bit harsh.
He was rightfully livid after game...
Like everyone has been saying, Kaleb lacks that quick twitch at line but that's not his role.
Kaleb needs a bit of steam before he pounds the Defense. Durham and Josh don't..
Next year with Berry, Durham we are set...but I'd still like to see Kaleb get more rushes out of the I formation...
Posted on 1/4/25 at 10:04 am to Basura Blanco
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The issue I have with that is Caden Durham has shown to be an accomplished receiver and he is the one back I want to see with the ball in his hand in space.
Holly is very good as well but who knows if he'll ever play another snap for LSU. He slips away from contact like Guice.
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