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re: CPM could have just change the Weekend Rotation
Posted on 3/19/18 at 8:35 am to HC87
Posted on 3/19/18 at 8:35 am to HC87
quote:Ben McDonald said during one telecast of a game this weekend that Bain's fastball has the highest rotation rate on the team. It means that his fastball moves laterally more than any other pitcher.
Bain wants to run it up there - FB, FB and FB. Good hitters will sit dead-red and turn some of those around for key hits.
So relying on his FB is understandable because it's not a typical flat trajectory fastball.
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Posted on 3/19/18 at 8:54 am to LSURussian
In the past Bain has had issues with his control and has walked too many.
Yesterday he came in with a five run lead, and the last thing you want to do is walk someone. He did not, but instead pounded the strike zone.
Two big hitters hit him hard, but so what? The tying run never reached the plate.
Yes, he gave up three but one reached on an error. I'm OK with that.
Now up one to close, you have a different strategy. But Bain did exactly what he needed to do up 5, pound the strike zone.
Yesterday he came in with a five run lead, and the last thing you want to do is walk someone. He did not, but instead pounded the strike zone.
Two big hitters hit him hard, but so what? The tying run never reached the plate.
Yes, he gave up three but one reached on an error. I'm OK with that.
Now up one to close, you have a different strategy. But Bain did exactly what he needed to do up 5, pound the strike zone.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 9:07 am to LSURussian
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Ben McDonald said during one telecast of a game this weekend that Bain's fastball has the highest rotation rate on the team. It means that his fastball moves laterally more than any other pitcher.
So relying on his FB is understandable because it's not a typical flat trajectory fastball.
I may very well be wrong but i thought the spin rate on a fistball was measuring the backspin.
If thats the case then it wouldnt be lateral movement on Bain's baseball. It would mean it would have great ride. Not dropping as much as your typical fastball.
Goose Gossage and Pedro Martinez had great ride on their fastballs which lead to people claiming that they broke the laws of physics and actually rose.
A fastball with good ride can be very deceptive but it can also be hit very hard if it doesn't get past the batter
This post was edited on 3/19/18 at 9:08 am
Posted on 3/19/18 at 9:07 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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but he hasn't earned a weekend starter role yet
I disagree. He has looked very comfortable on the mound. He can mix three pitches for strikes in any count which very few college pitchers can do. Hitters have trouble squaring up the ball on him and it's hard for hitters to string multiple hits together on him. I like him a lot. It's a must for him to be in the starting rotation.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 9:14 am to CottonWasKing
It all depends on his release(arm slot) and grip as to the movement factor
This post was edited on 3/19/18 at 9:16 am
Posted on 3/19/18 at 9:14 am to Howyouluhdat
I totally agree. He had me won over the night against ULL. Bases loaded and he sits down the next three batters to get out of the jam. Hostile environment. Kid looked like he had ice in his veins. Never looked scared once. He has my vote to win a spot in the weekend rotation.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 9:39 am to TigerLunatik
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And we still don't know what Storz can do. That could potentially be 6 starters. That works out very well for postseason formats.
Yep, all about how do we look come May and June.
That being said, Storz needs to get his arse out there.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 9:41 am to couvy1
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all depends on his release(arm slot) and grip as to the movement factor
I know that.
We were talking the spin rate measurement. I was under the impression that on fastballs they measure backspin and on breaking balls they measured lateral spin. I could be wrong though
Posted on 3/19/18 at 9:47 am to CottonWasKing
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And I was correct. Spin rate on a fastball is talking about the backspin rate. High spin rate equals ride not lateral movement.
On a fastball high spin rate is good and low spin rate is good (a sinker works because of low spin rate). Average spin rate better have some lateral movement or you get that flat fastball that gets hammered
And I was correct. Spin rate on a fastball is talking about the backspin rate. High spin rate equals ride not lateral movement.
On a fastball high spin rate is good and low spin rate is good (a sinker works because of low spin rate). Average spin rate better have some lateral movement or you get that flat fastball that gets hammered
Posted on 3/19/18 at 9:56 am to CottonWasKing
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And I was correct. Spin rate on a fastball is talking about the backspin rate. High spin rate equals ride not lateral movement.
It actually does. You're correct that the predominant spin on a fastball is backspin. However the spin axis is usually not perfectly vertical. So if his arm angle is slightly off of vertical the spin will be as well. And the high spin rate will cause the ball to run horizontally a little bit too.
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