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re: Could Nuss be the last pro style QB we see at LSU?
Posted on 11/12/24 at 1:56 pm to philly444
Posted on 11/12/24 at 1:56 pm to philly444
Burrow was the exception because he could run just enough. But mainly because of his mentality, decision making, vision, etc. On another level.
This post was edited on 11/12/24 at 1:57 pm
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Posted on 11/12/24 at 2:01 pm to RobbBobb
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Lulz, Yeah as soon as a DT QB actually wins the Natl Championship
Guess you slept through 2019.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 2:01 pm to Adam Banks
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20 years ago
Dude, we've gone thru 2 playoff revisions since then
Posted on 11/12/24 at 2:03 pm to RobbBobb
quote:This is getting sad and pathetic.quote:Daniels lost 4 games his 1st starts at LSU
Nuss is NOT as good as Daniels. He's just not.
Nuss is at 3. Not a lot of difference
Teams win games, not QBs. You should know this by now. There have been many winning teams with a barely adequate QB. There have been many outstanding QBs who won few games.
I want Nuss to be good too, but he's NOT as good as Daniels. It's not close.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 2:06 pm to lostinbr
Burrow -- 358 attempts to 29 rushes = 93% pass 7% runs
So, no
So, no
Posted on 11/12/24 at 2:08 pm to philly444
This is exactly it. Nuss is capable, he just doesn’t do it.
I have no idea why, but he will force a ball while on the run before he will ever tuck it and get up field
It’s mind numbing to watch.
I have no idea why, but he will force a ball while on the run before he will ever tuck it and get up field
It’s mind numbing to watch.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 2:13 pm to RobbBobb
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Burrow -- 358 attempts to 29 rushes = 93% pass 7% runs
I don’t know what numbers you think those are, but they aren’t Burrow’s passing attempts or rushes.
ETA:
Per-game averages:
Daniels 2022: 13.3 rushing attempts
Daniels 2023: 11.3 rushing attempts
Burrow 2018: 9.8 rushing attempts
Jefferson 2009: 9.3 rushing attempts
Jefferson 2010: 9.5 rushing attempts
Burrow 2019: 7.7 rushing attempts
Jefferson 2011: 7.5 rushing attempts
Jefferson 2008: 7.0 rushing attempts
. . .
Mettenberger 2012: 3.6 rushing attempts
Mettenberger 2013: 2.8 rushing attempts
Nussmeier 2024: 2.1 rushing attempts
This post was edited on 11/12/24 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 11/12/24 at 2:13 pm to MarcoPolo
No. Pro style QB’s are not going anywhere. The issue is it’s easier for a running QB to cover up shortcomings at the college level. The burners at QB in college are as fast as the burners at QB in the NFL, but players on defense aren’t, which is why it’s such an asset at the college level.
Despite that if you have even a decent run game and a QB who can at least scramble and see the holes like Burrow, I’ll still take a pro style any day. Especially at the college level because the fact is most burners or great runners at QB in college don’t pass the ball as well. Jayden was an anomaly.
In a lot of ways Burrow was more effective in some situations than Jayden was with his legs. Burrow wasn’t as fast but he saw holes the size of a dime and would make the defense pay whenever they presented themselves. He was so good at it that when he tucked the ball and ran I was 95% sure it would be a first down.
Despite that if you have even a decent run game and a QB who can at least scramble and see the holes like Burrow, I’ll still take a pro style any day. Especially at the college level because the fact is most burners or great runners at QB in college don’t pass the ball as well. Jayden was an anomaly.
In a lot of ways Burrow was more effective in some situations than Jayden was with his legs. Burrow wasn’t as fast but he saw holes the size of a dime and would make the defense pay whenever they presented themselves. He was so good at it that when he tucked the ball and ran I was 95% sure it would be a first down.
This post was edited on 11/12/24 at 2:15 pm
Posted on 11/12/24 at 2:14 pm to BootyFett69
I thought he may have a lingering injury. I hope that’s why, because if it’s a business decision then that’s fricked up
Posted on 11/12/24 at 2:15 pm to Salviati
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I want Nuss to be good too, but he's NOT as good as Daniels. It's not close.
I want a QB to get us to the playoffs. Daniels never did. At this point, Nuss likely wont either. Because his team is the worst in recent memory. So you should stop blaming him, since you agree that the team is at fault
The tale of the tape for me will be 2 things. End of year losses, and draft position. Daniels draft position was so bad that he returned to LSU. We will see where Nuss falls
And as for the thread topic, the current top 3 CFP teams dont have DT QBs
Posted on 11/12/24 at 2:17 pm to RobbBobb
quote:Nuss is just as much to blame as the rest of the team. He gives the ball to the other team at the most crucial times. He’s a huge part of the problem despite what you want to believe.
At this point, Nuss likely wont either. Because his team is the worst in recent memory.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 2:24 pm to philly444
He runs like he is on ice. His legs are cranking, but he's going absolutely no where. I think he knows this and is embarrassed, so he doesn't run at all.
It is like someone that is uncomfortable dancing, trying to "bust a move" to be funny for a few seconds.
It is like someone that is uncomfortable dancing, trying to "bust a move" to be funny for a few seconds.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 2:40 pm to MarcoPolo
you're seeing the end of QBs that have zero willingness to run
Posted on 11/12/24 at 2:41 pm to MarcoPolo
A qb who isn’t a threat to run and doesn’t protect the football has no place in CFB anymore
Posted on 11/12/24 at 2:52 pm to RobbBobb
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Daniels lost 4 games his 1st starts at LSU Nuss is at 3. Not a lot of difference
lol you can’t be this dumb
Posted on 11/12/24 at 2:57 pm to TigahTX
There is a difference between a running QB i.e. designed running plays, read option, ect and a pro style QB that can run. Yes there was an occasional QB draw with Burrow but most of his runs were out of the pro style where he saw an opportunity and got yards when no one was open. Jayden was much more of a running QB with designed plays and read options who would also run out of the pro style when he saw an opening. It's called take what the defense gives you and Nuss isn't there yet. Nuss was ahead of Jayden when it came to releasing the ball but behind Burrow when it came to running when the defense presented the opportunity. I think Nuss could be a much better QB with another year just like JB and JD. . Just remember a lot of the posters on here wanted JD gone in 2023.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 2:57 pm to sunnydaze
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lol you can’t be this dumb
Its Robb. He is.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 3:00 pm to RobbBobb
Nussmeier is worse than Daniels was his first year at LSU.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 3:13 pm to RobbBobb
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20 years ago Dude, we've gone thru 2 playoff revisions since then
Deshaun Watson had over 1000 yards rushing as a sophomore and 600+ as a junior
Jalen hurts made the championship game.
What makes you ignore these guys?
Posted on 11/12/24 at 3:13 pm to sunnydaze
Ok? Is there some specific rushing yardage mark that qualifies a QB as a dual threat once they hit it?
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