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continuity in the basketball program
Posted on 2/6/15 at 10:38 am
Posted on 2/6/15 at 10:38 am
IMHO, you've got to cut coach jones some slack. it is very difficult these days, to develop a program because of early departures.
every year the team is different. that's always been true, but you used to have time to develop your style and keep it going.
last year it was the JOB show. he left and we don't have any continuity from last year.
this is a problem for all schools.
next year should be a good year - a player like ben simmons can lift the whole team with his skill level. there should be enough quality returnees to provide the supporting class for winning.
it takes time to develop team identity.
yeah, you can point out deficiencies and attribute that to coaching, but what I'm saying is that the coaching staff needs the continuity to develop that attitude. sorry if too long.
every year the team is different. that's always been true, but you used to have time to develop your style and keep it going.
last year it was the JOB show. he left and we don't have any continuity from last year.
this is a problem for all schools.
next year should be a good year - a player like ben simmons can lift the whole team with his skill level. there should be enough quality returnees to provide the supporting class for winning.
it takes time to develop team identity.
yeah, you can point out deficiencies and attribute that to coaching, but what I'm saying is that the coaching staff needs the continuity to develop that attitude. sorry if too long.
This post was edited on 2/6/15 at 10:40 am
Posted on 2/6/15 at 10:40 am to stephendomalley
Tell that to calipari and krzyzewski
Posted on 2/6/15 at 10:43 am to stephendomalley
You don't think every good basketball program in the country faces the same challenges?
continuity doesn't help you inbound the ball
continuity doesn't help you inbound the ball
Posted on 2/6/15 at 10:45 am to Hermit Crab
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Tell that to calipari and krzyzewski
So we're comparing JJ to probably the best 2 coaches in the last decade of college basketball?
Posted on 2/6/15 at 10:45 am to Hermit Crab
Comparing him to 2 of the top coaches and top programs in the country not really fair for CJJ
Posted on 2/6/15 at 10:47 am to Pnels08
I don't think that was his point. He is saying that every big time school deals with frequent turnover on the roster
Posted on 2/6/15 at 10:48 am to stephendomalley
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last year it was the JOB show. he left and we don't have any continuity from last year.
this is a problem for all schools.
So why does LSU struggle with it more than others? This is the same lame excuse applied to football. There are few program players anymore. That's just the nature of the beast.
You either learn to adapt and work with what you have, or you fall by the wayside. Simmons and Blakeney aren't coming in next year to stick around and get their degree. They will be one-and-dones.
Continuity is an excuse in December, hell even January. This team has had half of their conference schedule to gel and mesh and still looks discombobulated at times. A big part of that is due to coaching, or lackthereof.
Posted on 2/6/15 at 10:49 am to stephendomalley
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Posted on 2/6/15 at 10:49 am to tigerfan102
Exactly... And we aren't a big time basketball school.
Posted on 2/6/15 at 10:51 am to stephendomalley
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last year it was the JOB show. he left and we don't have any continuity from last year.
So what happens next year once Mickey is gone and Martin may or may not be around? Will the same logic apply?
What happens when Simmons and maybe Blakeny leave after one season? Will we still say, "well, we've got no continuity"
JOBIII had a good enough supporting cast last season for this team to be better than .500 in a weak SEC. Stringer and Coleman were both seniors. Hickey was a Junior and 3 year starter. Mickey, while only a Freshman was putting up close to the same numbers that he is this year.
I'm sick of the excuses. LSU isn't in a loaded ACC or Big 12.
Posted on 2/6/15 at 10:52 am to stephendomalley
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it is very difficult these days, to develop a program because of early departures.
You must be living under a rock.
Posted on 2/6/15 at 11:08 am to Pnels08
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Comparing him to 2 of the top coaches and top programs in the country not really fair for CJJ
I'm just pointing out that there are coaches that lose players every single year, more so than LSU, and they don't have a problem staying consistently good.
Posted on 2/6/15 at 11:11 am to stephendomalley
We brought back 3 players who got significant playing time from last years team. The talent is there, but the understanding of how to play to each other's strengths isn't. It's year 3 of a total program rebuild, people need to give it time. Player development has been really good under JJ. JOB, Shavon, and Stringer all became significantly better players under Jones. shite, even Tuba was decent by the time he left. Now you can see Tim, Jarell, and Jordan becoming much more well rounded players then they were last year. I agree that JJ is a mediocre in game coach, but giving up now would set our program at least a decade back. No coach in his right mind would want to come here if we fired a coach who took over a dead program in year 3 after being more succesful then any LSU coach in his first three years. This program is headed in the right direction for the first time in a long time.
Posted on 2/6/15 at 11:15 am to BobBarker
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I agree that JJ is a mediocre in game coach, but giving up now would set our program at least a decade back
If this teams continues to play itself out of the tourney, but gets there next year with Simmons and Blakeney, he will be a Paul Hewitt 2.0 in my mind...needing lottery picks to get to the tournament. That would still look like a letdown.
Posted on 2/6/15 at 11:16 am to BobBarker
The players on this team aren't good enough to justify how short johnny plays the bench.
Either those guys are horrible that aren't playing, or he is employing a terrible rotation.
He's had 3 recruiting classes and he has 6 players he is comfortable putting on the floor. That isn't good enough.
Either those guys are horrible that aren't playing, or he is employing a terrible rotation.
He's had 3 recruiting classes and he has 6 players he is comfortable putting on the floor. That isn't good enough.
This post was edited on 2/6/15 at 11:17 am
Posted on 2/6/15 at 11:17 am to stephendomalley
Miss St
Tex A&M
Missouri
Auburn
All of those teams found enough "time to develop a team identity" and enough "continuity" to beat our team.
Tex A&M
Missouri
Auburn
All of those teams found enough "time to develop a team identity" and enough "continuity" to beat our team.
Posted on 2/6/15 at 11:20 am to Choupique19
I'll say this about State. They've actually been improving offensively over the last week or so...with a coach considered to be the worst in the league. And yet some of the same issues that plague us the last few years are still there at this stage of the season.
Posted on 2/6/15 at 11:21 am to stephendomalley
It is not Jones, we think LSU has talent but do they? M&Mare supposed to be NBA calibers but they can't play 40 minutes of basketball and turn the ball over like HS kids.
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