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re: Comparing naz reid and JOB III

Posted on 4/3/19 at 11:10 pm to
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47817 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 11:10 pm to
Naz was better period. There’s not one category or stat line that Johnny O’Bryant outperformed Naz in.

Freshman season scoring
Naz Reid- 13.6ppg
Johnny O’Bryant- 8.5ppg

Rebounding
Naz- 7.2rpg
Johnny O- 6.7rpg

Assists
Naz- 30, 0.9apg
Johnny O- 11, 0.4apg

Blocks
Naz- 23, 0.7bpg
Johnny O- 21, 0.8bpg

FG%
Naz- 46.8%
Johnny O- 39.9%

FT%
Naz- 72.7%
Johnny O- 62.5%

3point%
Naz- 33.3%
Johnny O- 16.7%
Posted by extremelsu
Atlanta
Member since Aug 2013
3775 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 11:10 pm to
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Naz’s game translates better than JOB’s
This is true.
But i wouldve rather had JOB on this year’s team.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47817 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 11:24 pm to
You realize that JOB played in a much less competitive SEC and was our number 1 option on those teams? If you gave Naz the same amount of touches and attempts vs the competition JOB faced it’s a pretty safe bet to assume even as a freshman Naz would’ve outperformed JOBs best season at LSU. Not accusing you of doing this but I’ve seen a few posters saying Naz didn’t play up to his recruiting ranking or 5* designation but that’s entirely false. Naz ranked #18 on the national recruiting board yet finished 13th among freshman in scoring and 8th in rebounding. So Naz actually played better than his ranking.
This post was edited on 4/3/19 at 11:26 pm
Posted by FournetteForEver7
Member since Nov 2015
2295 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 11:40 pm to
You do realize JOB averaged 21 minutes a game his fresh season? He had to share minutes with Storm Warren and Justin Hamilton that year. Naz averaged 6 more minutes a game. Look at JOB numbers from 2nd and 3rd year
Posted by FournetteForEver7
Member since Nov 2015
2295 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 11:46 pm to

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much less competitive SEC

Florida and Kentucky say hello
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47817 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 11:55 pm to
He didn’t have to share minutes, he couldn’t earn the minutes for himself. And Hamilton player center JOB played the 4, they started together for 17 games. You’re also refuting your own argument, it’s unfair to compare their freshman seasons because Naz played more minutes than JOB that year but you’re happy to compare the seasons where JOB played more minutes than Naz lol. Just take their average per 40 during their freshman seasons, (Naz 20ppg), (JOB 15.9ppg) it’s not really close. Or take their efficiency, (Naz 46.8% FG, 72.7%FT, 33.3% from 3) (JOB 39.9%FG, 62.5% FT, 16.7% from 3) again not even close. On any equal system of comparison Naz was better than JOB3, that’s not a knock on O’Bryant, I love the guy, it’s just a fact.
This post was edited on 4/4/19 at 12:03 am
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47817 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 11:58 pm to
Lol did Kentucky leave the SEC? There’s no comparison as to if the league is stronger today than it was in 2013-14. I could give you the numbers but so far you’ve shown that facts don’t mean anything if they’re in the way of your narrative.
This post was edited on 4/3/19 at 11:59 pm
Posted by Ryan3232
Valet driver for TD staff
Member since Dec 2008
25794 posts
Posted on 4/4/19 at 6:01 am to
Naz has a shite ton of potential. JOB3 kind of met his ceiling his junior year as far as potential goes. He was a great college player without the athleticism for the pros. Naz could be a really good backup forward in the NBA and I think he will be.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14486 posts
Posted on 4/4/19 at 6:31 am to
There are a lot of similarities. Neither are explosive in the sense of some of the elite athletes you see in the NBA, and both like to maybe try to dribble and shoot from the perimeter more than they really should.

I actually think OBJ's post game was further advanced as a frosh than Naz's, but not by much.

I think Naz may have a bit more upside that OBJ going into the league. I think both came here with a rep for not having a good motor....and I think both largely debunked that by their effort here. I think both gave good effort most of the time....there were exceptions, but I thought them rare compared to the reps they had in that regard.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14486 posts
Posted on 4/4/19 at 6:33 am to
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Naz gotta get a post game if he will make it in the league.


Not sure this is true, post basketball is dying in the NBA. He might be better suited to improving the rest of his game and of course rebounding.
Posted by FAP SAM
Member since Sep 2014
2875 posts
Posted on 4/4/19 at 6:47 am to
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Naz took alot of far shots this season and got a few to drop in.


If this is what you think about Naz's shooting...

He probably took more 3s than he should've but he has a really nice outside shot for a player his size
Posted by OGtigerfan87
North La
Member since Feb 2019
3369 posts
Posted on 4/4/19 at 6:58 am to
This thread should have been titled I think JOB was better than Naz and I’m slowly gonna make my case under the disguise of a comparison thread. It’s obvious that’s what you think. I was a huge JOB fan but there was one area of the game where he was better, in the paint scoring. Naz was better in pretty much every other category and by margins so wide that those areas are not comparable. Shooting, passing, handling the ball, finishing at the rim, getting up and down the floor especially in transition, defense versatility which is a necessity these days all go to Reid. JOB was a good college low post scorer and rebounder which makes the comparison at least not completely laughable for college but on the next level it’s not close at all. And Reid played 6 more minutes on a deeper team as a freshman and pretty much doubled all the stats. Mix in that the SEC is undeniably much stronger now and Reid is the clear answer for college and pro prospects. But I loved JOB he was my type of player. Reid is just more talented
This post was edited on 4/4/19 at 7:03 am
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47817 posts
Posted on 4/4/19 at 7:27 am to
“Naz took alot of far shots this season and got a few to drop in.”

Naz had the best 3 point shooting percentage of all the starters for LSU this season, better than any guard on the roster. He shot 38.2% from 3 in SEC play and was second only to Darius Days overall. He was 28 of 84 from distance so he had more than just a few drop in including multiple go ahead and game clinching 3s in some of the biggest moments of the season. Did you watch any games this year?
This post was edited on 4/4/19 at 7:52 am
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68296 posts
Posted on 4/4/19 at 7:29 am to
Naz is much more advanced than JOB III, it's really not that close. JOB III was never made for the NBA, should have stayted in college all 4 years. Naz can translate.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
14492 posts
Posted on 4/4/19 at 7:36 am to
As a freshman, Naz Reid is better. But JOB stayedDefensively and around the rim JOB has the edge. Shooting wise Reid. The biggest difference is that JOB had pretty much peaked when he left LSU and Naz has potential that scouts drool over.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47817 posts
Posted on 4/4/19 at 7:47 am to
Agree with you 100%. I’m a big Johnny O’Bryant fan, he was a warrior and did great things at LSU but he’s not on Naz’s level. And you’re right JOB3 should’ve stayed 4 years. He didn’t even ask for an evaluation after his Jr. season, his explanation was that after his sophomore year he was evaluated as a borderline draft pick and that he felt he had improved so he had to be a first rounder. His thought process made absolutely no sense at all.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34275 posts
Posted on 4/4/19 at 7:54 am to
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I guess it depends on which team he's drafted to. I think he's a long way from starting in the league


A league where the subs are multimillionaires... He can go get paid $1M per year to get way more training than he can receive at LSU.
Posted by unctiger4
Member since Mar 2015
2109 posts
Posted on 4/4/19 at 8:11 am to
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Naz is going round 1 and he will have a very successful nba career. The kid is still learning to play in his big frame. By year 2 he will be a starter


Not to hate on Naz but unless he’s playing for a tanking team two years from now I’d bet almost anything you’re wrong.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41178 posts
Posted on 4/4/19 at 8:13 am to
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There’s not one category or stat line that Johnny O’Bryant outperformed Naz in.


defense
Posted by cj35
Member since Jan 2014
6153 posts
Posted on 4/4/19 at 8:14 am to
I'll take Naz any day over JOB III
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