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Comparing LSU and Bama vs like opponents

Posted on 10/29/26 at 8:23 am
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
17027 posts
Posted on 10/29/26 at 8:23 am
I didn't look at the whole season, but both teams played UK, State and A&M.

The most significant difference in those games was turnovers.

LSU was -1. 3 forced and 4 given up

Bama was +4. 10 forced and 6 given up.

Even more glaring was in all 3 games Bama had a pick 6. They are extremely aggressive and jump routes, specifically boundary throws. Leavitt is going to have to be very careful because this is the most opportunistic defense we'll play all season. But, as others have pointed out they are susceptible to giving up big plays while being overly aggressive.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Bawcomville
Member since Oct 2013
26246 posts
Posted on 10/29/26 at 8:27 am to
I mean that is all fine to look at, compare, discuss. Ultimately it doesn't mean a single thing though. Look at what is happening on the field this year. There is parity, and it changes game to game. The transitive property never applies, but it has never been more true than this year.
This post was edited on 10/29/26 at 8:28 am
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
64754 posts
Posted on 10/29/26 at 8:33 am to
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The transitive property never applies


He didn’t really do that.

Did you read his post?
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
20781 posts
Posted on 10/29/26 at 8:39 am to
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He didn’t really do that.

Did you read his post?

Comparing like opponents is somewhat using transitive property. Otherwise, he would’ve just used all games.
Posted by OscarTheGrouch
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2006
6163 posts
Posted on 10/29/26 at 8:43 am to
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Look at what is happening on the field this year


This^^^^^

It's been a crazy year. Teams beat down top 10 opponents then proceed to to get a beat down of their own the following week
This post was edited on 10/29/26 at 8:45 am
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
64754 posts
Posted on 10/29/26 at 8:43 am to
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Comparing like opponents is somewhat using transitive property. Otherwise, he would’ve just used all games.



Comparing like opponents to determine who will win is using the transitive property. He didn't do that.

He's comparing like opponents to get a subset of games and then evaluating many different aspects of the game to make a point about Bama's aggressive style.

That's not the transitive property. I think you guys read the title.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
20781 posts
Posted on 10/29/26 at 8:53 am to
Why is he only using like opponents if he is not suggesting that they are related? Also, he’s comparing turnover margin, not necessarily “many different aspects of the game”
Posted by bstew3006
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Member since Dec 2007
13112 posts
Posted on 10/29/26 at 8:54 am to
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mean that is all fine to look at, compare, discuss. Ultimately it doesn't mean a single thing though. Look at what is happening on the field this year. There is parity, and it changes game to game. The transitive property never applies, but it has never been more true than this year.


I agree with the transitive property argument, but that doesn’t mean comparing common opponents is meaningless. Coaches study film on every opponent, and common opponents can provide valuable insight when developing a game plan, identifying tendencies, finding weaknesses to exploit, and recognizing what to avoid. That doesn’t mean the outcome will be the same, but it certainly doesn’t make the comparison irrelevant.
Posted by doya2
Charenton
Member since Jan 2005
9053 posts
Posted on 10/29/26 at 8:54 am to
All of this means nothing
Posted by vidtiger23
Member since Feb 2012
10803 posts
Posted on 10/29/26 at 8:57 am to
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Comparing like opponents is somewhat using transitive property. Otherwise, he would’ve just used all games.

It’s a way to compare matchups and how they may apply to each other which isn’t an exact science, but can be done. Transitive property would be saying Bama best Kentucky by 20 something points and LSU lost by 1 so Bama will therefore blow LSU out. Which would be a bad comparison as you pointed out.
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