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re: College Baseball Top 8 National Seed Picture

Posted on 5/19/25 at 8:32 pm to
Posted by crewdepoo
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Posted on 5/19/25 at 8:32 pm to
How is oregons SOS basically the same as us when they have 13 q1&q2 games and we have 31?
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
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Posted on 5/19/25 at 8:39 pm to
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How is oregons SOS basically the same as us when they have 13 q1&q2 games and we have 31?


No earthly idea.
Posted by Adam4848
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Posted on 5/19/25 at 8:56 pm to
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I was just playing out a situation where the committee uses one criteria for doing one thing, then ignores it to place another team. But I suppose it would be Texas, Arkansas, UNC, Vandy for sure. The 5th wouldn't really make much sense being at 5 in this scenario, but it would have to be FSU/Clemson winning the ACC tournament or Oregon St with west coast love. However, I don't think any of those teams get the 5.


Yea that’s why I think LSU is lock as are the other 5 SEC teams.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
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Posted on 5/19/25 at 9:03 pm to
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Yea that’s why I think LSU is lock as are the other 5 SEC teams.


So you think the SEC gets 6, regardless of anything? Do you also consider UNC a lock?
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
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Posted on 5/19/25 at 9:23 pm to
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How is oregons SOS basically the same as us when they have 13 q1&q2 games and we have 31?


Their opponents have played weaker schedules, so they have pretty records but lower RPI rankings. Like the RPI formula itself, RPI SOS is materially flawed.
Posted by Adam4848
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Posted on 5/19/25 at 9:59 pm to
Yes, 6 SEC teams and UNC a lock.

I think that last spot is up for grabs between Oregon and Oregon St. (They’ll probably pair each other to guarantee a west coast team a path to Omaha)

Florida St is the only other team I could see screwing everything up if a couple of these SEC teams go one and done and they win the ACC tournament (could certainly happen).

Edit: One could argue Clemson is in a similar position to Florida St. who’s well on the outside and would need to basically reach the title game or win the tournament for things to get dicey.
This post was edited on 5/19/25 at 10:04 pm
Posted by LC4Tigers
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Posted on 5/19/25 at 10:08 pm to
If FSU and Oregon win their tournaments, then which teams are at risk of losing their spots? Assuming those SEC teams go 0-1 and RPI drops?
This post was edited on 5/19/25 at 10:08 pm
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 5/19/25 at 10:19 pm to
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If FSU and Oregon win their tournaments, then which teams are at risk of losing their spots? Assuming those SEC teams go 0-1 and RPI drops?
My completely uninformed guess would be inverse order of finish in the SEC.

Auburn first, then Georgia.
Posted by Tammany Tom
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Posted on 5/19/25 at 10:22 pm to
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If FSU and Oregon win their tournaments, then which teams are at risk of losing their spots? Assuming those SEC teams go 0-1 and RPI drops?


The conference tournaments are meaningless in determining top seeds. The top 16 seeds are set already. The only meaningful thing conference tournaments add is to a team that has a really bad record and needs to win their conference tournament in order to make the ncaa tournament.
Posted by LC4Tigers
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Posted on 5/19/25 at 10:24 pm to
I don’t think that’s true. Tennessee is good example of that. If Vols win the SEC tournament, then they will host.
Posted by lsufan1971
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Posted on 5/19/25 at 10:27 pm to
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The top 16 seeds are set already. The only meaningful thing conference tournaments add is to a team that has a really bad record and needs to win their conference tournament in order to make the ncaa tournament.


That is not true. A team say at 17-21 wins their conference tournaments can move up if 14-16 go 1 and done. The top 8 seeds are pretty set but 9-16 aren’t.

If DBU at 16 shits the bed and Ole Miss makes it to Sunday. You think the NCAA would rather have a park that holds 2K or 13K.
This post was edited on 5/19/25 at 10:31 pm
Posted by Adam4848
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Posted on 5/19/25 at 10:42 pm to
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Auburn first, then Georgia.


Correct
Posted by Tigerpride18
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Posted on 5/19/25 at 11:25 pm to
just because someone that doesn't know what they're talking about is giving dumb takes , doesn't mean its a valid discussion .
Posted by LAhinguarst
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Posted on 5/19/25 at 11:40 pm to
I understand the metrics and the committees dumb decisions sometimes....but how do we go from the unanimous #1 team going into the final week, win 2/3 on the road.....and drop to the #9 spot?
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
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Posted on 5/20/25 at 4:11 am to
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but how do we go from the unanimous #1 team going into the final week, win 2/3 on the road.....and drop to the #9 spot?


The polls have absolutely nothing to do with the national seeds. And we haven't dropped to the 9 spot in anything.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 5/20/25 at 5:12 am to
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just because someone that doesn't know what they're talking about is giving dumb takes , doesn't mean its a valid discussion


What exactly are you talking about? I simply supplied a large number of metrics the committee uses to determine national seeds.
Posted by RightWingTiger
Louisiana
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Posted on 5/20/25 at 5:49 am to
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Vols win the SEC tournament, then they will host.
Host a Regional (like top 16 seed)? Yes, definitely.
Host a Super Regional? No way in Hell!!
Posted by sabbertooth
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Posted on 5/20/25 at 8:07 am to
What is the max number of SEC teams the committee lets into the top 8?

Is that question relevant to the committee’s decision?
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 5/20/25 at 8:08 am to
The most ever was 5…. Last year

And the SEC is stronger this year and has 2 more teams

So most people are expecting 5 again, with a possibility that it may be 6. Hard to definitively/confidently predict 6 as it’s never happened, but it certainly seems like it might this year
This post was edited on 5/20/25 at 8:13 am
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
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Posted on 5/20/25 at 9:31 am to
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What is the max number of SEC teams the committee lets into the top 8?


Max number should be 8 if they are the 8 best teams, with the 8 best resumes. This year there will be 6 deserving top 8s. Guess we will find out soon enough if they have a number they aren't willing to exceed.
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