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re: Cole Tracy: Did he make Orgeron settle for 3 too often?

Posted on 5/14/19 at 4:00 am to
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
41219 posts
Posted on 5/14/19 at 4:00 am to
quote:

was such a bitch arse move for O to try that field goal against Bama just to try and save face by not getting shut out again. So pathetic
So sad but yet so true.
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 5/14/19 at 6:42 am to
Not having a consistent run game along with Tracy being automatic inside 40 made Orgeron settle for a lot of field goals. You have to be able to run the ball consistently in order to be successful inside the 30. I believe that will change this year.
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
12080 posts
Posted on 5/14/19 at 7:11 am to
quote:

It was such a bitch arse move for O to try that field goal against Bama just to try and save face by not getting shut out again. So pathetic


This was my biggest disappointment in coach o in his 3 seasons. Not trying to compete vs bama was more embarrassing than the Troy loss imo, even though it didn’t get the same publicity.
This post was edited on 5/14/19 at 7:12 am
Posted by tigertex1992
Houston
Member since Apr 2014
1863 posts
Posted on 5/14/19 at 7:54 am to
This was absolutely true. Cole Tracy was his crutch.
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
41627 posts
Posted on 5/14/19 at 8:17 am to
Even if this is true, I don't think Orgeron settled for 3 as much as Miles. Miles would run offense designed to kick fg's.
Posted by Genestealer55
ARLINGTON
Member since May 2017
7760 posts
Posted on 5/14/19 at 8:19 am to
Oh come on
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
12350 posts
Posted on 5/14/19 at 8:31 am to
No. Our offense just wasn't efficient enough to be more productive. Part of the that was due to the O-line deficiencies and part was red zone play calling and execution.
Posted by EasterEgg
New Orleans Metro
Member since Sep 2018
4839 posts
Posted on 5/14/19 at 8:44 am to
No. Orgeron settled for 3 only on most 4th downs inside the 30 yard line.
Posted by LSUgrad1998
Member since Aug 2018
775 posts
Posted on 5/14/19 at 8:58 am to
It was more likely the OL play last season that may have led to more FG's than necessary. Had to have maximum protection, so couldn't utilize the TE's much in the redzone. That should change this season hopefully.
Posted by madddoggydawg
Metairie
Member since Jun 2013
6627 posts
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:03 am to
Not reading the other comments but I agree with OP.
This post was edited on 5/14/19 at 9:04 am
Posted by TheDeathValley
New Orleans, LA
Member since Sep 2010
18925 posts
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:09 am to
quote:

Not reading the other comments but I agree with OP.



Yeah that is how community forums work you moron.

I do not think O "settled" for field goals, but having a good kicker, and a mediocre offense, the decision to kick a FG was easier.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:13 am to
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Had to have maximum protection

They didn’t have to, that was just the only strategy O and E knew how to employ.
Posted by Triton TR 196
Pineville
Member since Nov 2015
159 posts
Posted on 5/14/19 at 10:43 am to
So... I've been reading your drivel for awhile now and it seems you have a vast more knowledge of football than both Coach O and Coach E. My question is exactly where have you coached or played to achieve this great knowledge that you drop on this board incessantly? Surely you had a lifelong career in the NFL or College coaching amidst some of the greats so please do tell. Further more where does a coach or player with your experience find the time to post the amount you do? Aren't you really busy giving coaching seminars and such?
Here is what I believe, You are Cajunbama's alter.
Posted by scott8811
Ratchet City, LA
Member since Oct 2014
12392 posts
Posted on 5/14/19 at 10:45 am to
you have a great point... having a guaranteed 3 points usually hurts football teams.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 5/14/19 at 11:47 am to
quote:

it seems you have a vast more knowledge of football than both Coach O and Coach E.

Thank you for the compliment, that was very unexpected

quote:

Here is what I believe, You are Cajunbama's alter.

Since you gave me a nice compliment, I'll let you down as easily as I can: do not quit your current job and seek a new career in fortune telling.
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
12845 posts
Posted on 5/14/19 at 11:53 am to
O had a weakness for the FG even before Cole Tracy. Going for three against ND at the one foot line with three BAD kickers was just embarrassing. And it ended up costing the game.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 5/14/19 at 11:54 am to
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Going for three against ND at the one foot line with three BAD kickers was just embarrassing

You forgot the best part: Derrius Guice standing on the sidelines.
This post was edited on 5/14/19 at 12:04 pm
Posted by RMcWill1
Member since May 2019
155 posts
Posted on 5/14/19 at 12:01 pm to
he was a second round pick but your point stands.

I think OP is getting unfairly treated. The facts speak for themselves. 33 attempted FGs was second in all of FBS.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33833 posts
Posted on 5/14/19 at 12:10 pm to
I mean the coach said that he knew once we got past a certain point in the field he knew we were good for three. That doesn't exactly foster an aggressive red-zone mentality.

I remember Peyton Manning once said he'd rather be down by 4 than down by 3. Those two scenarios foster completely different ways of approaching a drive, because of how conservative coaches can be.
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