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re: Coach O Is Crushing It
Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:09 pm to TigerLunatik
Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:09 pm to TigerLunatik
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Wait, what? It was a specific statement about O and E that you quoted but then brought up something totally different. Why wouldn't someone ask you that question?
I believe Roger's been hitting the sauce after his last few posts.
Posted on 2/20/19 at 11:31 pm to dukke v
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they don’t did it every fricking play like a Miles offense used to.... AND LSU hasn’t had to do it since Miles has been gone... geez. Do you even watch the games?
How many times is your stance gonna change on this subject?
You said no team does it.
Posted on 2/20/19 at 11:35 pm to earl keese
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believe Roger's been hitting the sauce after his last few po
He thinks he could be greg maddux with enough practice.
Posted on 2/21/19 at 12:52 am to josh336
"Im confused, we went 9-3".
You certainly are confused. We went 10-3. At least know a little something about what.you are talking about if you are going to post
You certainly are confused. We went 10-3. At least know a little something about what.you are talking about if you are going to post
Posted on 2/21/19 at 1:24 am to boxcar willie
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ou certainly are confused. We went 10-3. At least know a little something about what.you are talking about if you are going to post
His point still stands.
Losing at least 3 games every year and having a shite offense is labeled crushing it under O while those same exact numbers were used to get miles fired.
Posted on 2/21/19 at 1:26 am to RedTigerRulz
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And if we're being totally honest, should have lost if not for a functional retard trying to kick FGs for Bama.
Thats why you dont attempt 3 fgs that wouldve been a career long fg for your kicker in a tight game.
Posted on 2/21/19 at 1:49 am to Rickdaddy4188
I haven't followed the whole thread. How could anyone?
But if you're talking about the 9-6 Bama game, Miles clearly out coached Saban. Nick should have punted and played field position with his defense.
He blew that game in every way. He didn't consider that Jefferson would play and LSU would run some option? Completely unprepared.
But if you're talking about the 9-6 Bama game, Miles clearly out coached Saban. Nick should have punted and played field position with his defense.
He blew that game in every way. He didn't consider that Jefferson would play and LSU would run some option? Completely unprepared.
Posted on 2/21/19 at 2:06 am to BillF
It always bothered me that people acted like missing 3 fgs that even nfl kickers have a problem making was chalked up to leaving points on the field.
You can line up 70 yard fgs and act like you beat yourself by leaving points on the field.
The most 50-50+ fgs made by an nfl kicker last year was 6 and saban expected his college kicker to make 2.
You can line up 70 yard fgs and act like you beat yourself by leaving points on the field.
The most 50-50+ fgs made by an nfl kicker last year was 6 and saban expected his college kicker to make 2.
This post was edited on 2/21/19 at 2:10 am
Posted on 2/21/19 at 4:17 am to Rickdaddy4188
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He thinks he could be greg maddux with enough practice.
Well, back when I was 14, 15 and 16 years old, I believed I could throw a football as well as Johnny Unitas, shoot a basketball as well as Jerry West or Oscar Robinson and hit a baseball as well as Hank Aaron or Frank Robinson.
Then one day you wake up and realize that you're just dreaming about being able to do those things.
Roger will eventually grow up and understand that he'll never be able to do that sort of thing.
Posted on 2/21/19 at 5:32 am to RedTigerRulz
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And if we're being totally honest, should have lost if not for a functional retard trying to kick FGs for Bama.
I must denigrate Miles. Even if it means trashy the 2011 win in Tuscaloosa.
Posted on 2/21/19 at 7:08 am to Rickdaddy4188
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Losing at least 3 games every year and having a shite offense is labeled crushing it under O while those same exact numbers were used to get miles fired.
Miles had run the program down to the point that winning 10 games was the highest possible achievement. Orgeron "appears" to have moved the team into a position that 10 wins is the norm.
Miles was recruiting the easy players - Louisiana talent and skill players who wanted to be at DBU - and letting our offensive and defensive line talent languish. Orgeron is killing himself trying to fill the gaps until he can get recruiting back to where it should be. His first real class was ranked about 15th, but it was well balanced. His second class was ranked 5th but he had a huge shortcoming at defensive back. His third class is currently ranked number one.
His season records have been 8-4, 9-4, 10-3. Both his recruiting and his actual records point to improvement. Miles' last years were 10-3, 8-4, 9-3 (three really bad embarrassing losses), and 2-2 when he was finally fired. And Miles' classes, while ranked fairly high, left whole position groups neglected.
Orgeron's first three years look a lot better than Miles' last three. I'm one of the few on here who remember that you were actually in favor of Miles being fired at the end. You often are unjustly accused of being a Miles defender when you are actually just stating your opinion that Ed Orgeron gets credited for doing what got Miles fired. I just don't agree that the positive trajectory under Orgeron is the same as the slightly negative trajectory under Miles. And it's my opinion that Miles' trajectory was about to get a lot worse. That 2-2 was ugly, and the negativism around the program was going to be hard to overcome.
I don't think Orgeron is a better coach than Miles. I don't think he's even as good as far as ability goes. But Orgeron is working hard. Miles was on cruise control. Big time SEC football is no place for a coach who is complacent. Orgeron hasn't proven himself yet, but he's proven a lot of us wrong. I thought he would be a disastrous coach. He's turned out at least OK. Let's see where he goes from here. I sure am excited about the 2019 recruiting class, and I think he might dethrone Alabama with his 2020 class. Can he do it on the field?
Posted on 2/21/19 at 7:15 am to Mo Jeaux
96 pages. Somebody let me know when we get a coach that can beat Saban. Until we can do that, nothing else much matters. Cholly Mac had the same damn problem.
Posted on 2/21/19 at 7:36 am to Spotswoode
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Miles had run the program down to the point that winning 10 games was the highest possible achievement. Orgeron "appears" to have moved the team into a position that 10 wins is the norm.
Orgeron has won 10 games exactly once as a head coach and has only done it half the time he’s been LSU’s coach, but it’s now “the norm”.
This is exactly the kind of utterly fabricated bullshite that causes 90+ page threads.
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Orgeron's first three years look a lot better than Miles' last three.
Here’s more of that utterly fabricated bullshite I was just talking about.
This post was edited on 2/21/19 at 8:00 am
Posted on 2/21/19 at 7:59 am to RB10
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Orgeron's first three years look a lot better than Miles' last three.
Here’s more of that utterly fabricated bullshite I was just talking about
You would know about utterly fabricated bullshite. Les isn't coming back and he was running the program into the ground. You don't like it nobody cares. Keep defending him and keep running O down. You're going to look like a fool before it's all over with. In fact you already look like a fool. Right now LSU has the number one recruiting class. It remains to be seen if O can keep it there but it certainly indicates that he's recruiting at a high level.
Posted on 2/21/19 at 8:12 am to bencoleman
The posters here can’t see the forest for the trees. The overarching problem in the latter part of Miles’ tenure was his offense. Everyone knew what, when, where, and how Miles was going with his offense. He believed his Tigers were so stout he could still succeed even though everyone knew what he would do. He was right for 9-10 games each season. He could run right at teams and they couldn’t stop it. His problem was the other teams on the schedule. Compounding that problem was the fact that few QBs wanted to come to LSU because they’d just hand the ball off in the eye formation a large percentage of the time.
Miles refused to change which perpetuated the problems of being unable to recruit a QB and not being able to force his will on 2-3 teams per year. LSU was stuck in neutral. Now you have an OC that’s opening up the offense just a little and four 4* QBs have committed or signed just since last summer.
Miles refused to change which perpetuated the problems of being unable to recruit a QB and not being able to force his will on 2-3 teams per year. LSU was stuck in neutral. Now you have an OC that’s opening up the offense just a little and four 4* QBs have committed or signed just since last summer.
Posted on 2/21/19 at 8:15 am to bencoleman
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You would know about utterly fabricated bullshite. Les isn't coming back and he was running the program into the ground.
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Keep defending him and keep running O down. You're going to look like a fool before it's all over with. In fact you already look like a fool.
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It remains to be seen if O can keep it there but it certainly indicates that he's recruiting at a high level
Way to contradict yourself there ben.
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Right now LSU has the number one recruiting class.
Yeah, and four months ago LSU was "guaranteed" to have a top three class by some of you clowns. It's February 2019 and you're bragging about the 2020 recruiting class ranking.
Posted on 2/21/19 at 8:19 am to RB10
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Yeah, and four months ago LSU was "guaranteed" to have a top three class by some of you clowns. It's February 2019 and you're bragging about the 2020 recruiting class ranking
You can't be this fricking stupid. Yes you can obviously.
Dumb frick.
Posted on 2/21/19 at 8:21 am to bencoleman
Good Lord this thread...

Posted on 2/21/19 at 8:21 am to The First Cut
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Compounding that problem was the fact that few QBs wanted to come to LSU because they’d just hand the ball off in the eye formation a large percentage of the time.
Miles refused to change which perpetuated the problems of being unable to recruit a QB and not being able to force his will on 2-3 teams per year. LSU was stuck in neutral. Now you have an OC that’s opening up the offense just a little and four 4* QBs have committed or signed just since last summer.
2013-2016:
LSU signed three 4* QBs and one 3*. They also brought in a former 4* transfer who started for nearly two full seasons.
2017-2019:
LSU has signed three 4* QBs. They also brought in a former 4* transfer who will start for two full seasons.
Posted on 2/21/19 at 8:22 am to bencoleman
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You can't be this fricking stupid. Yes you can obviously.
Dumb frick.
Standard response when you don't have a solid rebuttal.
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