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re: Coach O Is Crushing It
Posted on 2/21/19 at 8:50 am to The First Cut
Posted on 2/21/19 at 8:50 am to The First Cut
quote:
He couldn’t recruit QBs with that offense.
Oh he could. He just couldn't develop them.
There's a long list of QB's he signed, most were failures.
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Posted on 2/21/19 at 8:51 am to RogerTheShrubber
I can’t believe this thread is still going 3 weeks later with the same characters 
Posted on 2/21/19 at 8:51 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
Which 4* QB's has Orgeron signed that haven't panned out yet?
Which ones have?
quote:
Of course we are talking about Miles. You can judge O's several years down the road.
5 of Miles seasons produced very sub par passing games. The only ones that didn't included Saban's QBs and Mettenberger.
You literally just said the only QBs that panned out for Miles were transfers. Well, I hate to break it to you Roger, but the only QBs that have panned out for Orgeron have been transfers.
Don't get angry because your attempt to bash the old coach directly bashes the current coach.
Posted on 2/21/19 at 8:52 am to The Pirate King
quote:
I can’t believe this thread is still going 3 weeks later with the same characters
All joking aside...is it not better to keep what is essentially one big disagreement in this isolated thread rather than have multiple threads that all read the same eventually?
Posted on 2/21/19 at 8:57 am to RB10
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You literally just said the only QBs that panned out for Miles were transfers.
Absolutely
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Well, I hate to break it to you Roger, but the only QBs that have panned out for Orgeron have been transfers.
You can judge his QB development in a few years. He's only been HC for two. One QB was already here.
Posted on 2/21/19 at 8:59 am to RogerTheShrubber
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You can judge his QB development in a few years. He's only been HC for two. One QB was already here.
This doesn't go both ways though, right? It's perfectly fine for the other poster to sit here and brag about a bunch of QBs who've never even started a game for LSU.
Again, I'm sorry that your attempt to trash Miles for his use of transfer quarterbacks also trashes Orgeron. Maybe think it all the way through next time.
Posted on 2/21/19 at 8:59 am to RB10
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quote:Etling and Burrow are far beyond what I’d consider avg qb play. Actual production be damned.
Comparatively they did do well:
2018 Burrow: TD/INT 16/5; YDS 2894
2017 Etling: TD/INT 16/2; YDS 2463
2016 Split coaching/Interim
2015 Harris: TD/INT 13/6; YDS 2165
2014 Harris/Jennings: TD/INT 17/9; YDS 2063
2013 Mett: TD/INT 22/8; YDS 3082
2012 Mett: TD/INT 12/7; YDS 2609
2011 Lee/Jefferson: TD/INT 20/5; YDS 2043
2010 Lee/Jefferson: TD/INT 9/11; YDS 1984
I think Burrow easily eclipses Mett's 2013 production and he had a much better 1st season as starter vs Mett. Considering Mett was able to sit a year before taking over I think Burrow has potential to be more productive after a full offseason with the team.
Posted on 2/21/19 at 9:04 am to BayouCowboy
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Comparatively they did do well:
Comparing them to other LSU QBs doesn't make them "far beyond" average when discussing college quarterbacks.
Passing yards - 63rd
Passing YPA - 47th
Passing YPG - 67th
Passing TDs - 88th
Passing INTs - t-7th
Passer Rating - 65th
Those are LSU's national ranks. The only stat that LSU is above average is INTs. Guess which stat was the only one those 2014 and 2015 passing attacks were above average in?
This post was edited on 2/21/19 at 9:05 am
Posted on 2/21/19 at 9:08 am to RB10
quote:
This doesn't go both ways though, right?
WTF?
Which ones are we waiting on?
Posted on 2/21/19 at 9:09 am to p&g
quote:
Etling and Burrow are far beyond what I’d consider avg qb play.
One of those is not like the other
Posted on 2/21/19 at 9:09 am to RB10
He signed etling yet started Harris.
A kid that couldn’t make it a North Carolina.
Think about that.
A kid that couldn’t make it a North Carolina.
Think about that.
Posted on 2/21/19 at 9:10 am to p&g
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Players like JJ, AJ and BH did him and our offense in.
Can't help but wonder if there's a racial undertone to this. You see it from many hardcore O supporters who tend to throw players under the bus...
Posted on 2/21/19 at 9:11 am to BayouCowboy
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2015 Harris: TD/INT 13/6; YDS 2165
2014 Harris/Jennings: TD/INT 17/9; YDS 2063
2013 Mett: TD/INT 22/8; YDS 3082
2012 Mett: TD/INT 12/7; YDS 2609
2011 Lee/Jefferson: TD/INT 20/5; YDS 2043
2010 Lee/Jefferson: TD/INT 9/11; YDS 1984
Yep.
Posted on 2/21/19 at 9:11 am to RogerTheShrubber
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WTF?
Which ones are we waiting on?
Do you really need me to explain your hypocrisy? Ok then.
You say I have to wait a couple of year to judge Orgeron on his QB recruiting and evaluation skills. Meanwhile, you're perfectly fine with the poster saying he's doing a "much better" job of it than Miles was. This is without a shred of evidence since we've yet to see an Orgeron recruited quarterback who isn't a transfer start a game for LSU. This is hypocritical Roger.
I hope this clears things up for you.
Posted on 2/21/19 at 9:12 am to Damone
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Can't help but wonder if there's a racial undertone to this.
frickin Liberals. Always using the race card when they can't argue any other way
Posted on 2/21/19 at 9:12 am to Damone
I’m confused the one that has a super bowl ring?
Or the other guy?
Neither are all stars (Burrow could change minds in 19) but they both are certainly a breath of fresh air from other qbs I mentioned.
Or the other guy?
Neither are all stars (Burrow could change minds in 19) but they both are certainly a breath of fresh air from other qbs I mentioned.
Posted on 2/21/19 at 9:12 am to RB10
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Meanwhile, you're perfectly fine with the poster saying he's doing a "much better" job of it than Miles was
bullshite
Link this up, Jethro.
Lets see it.
Posted on 2/21/19 at 9:13 am to RogerTheShrubber
Absofrickinglutley.
It’s amazing, only when LSU has a black QB does that narrative raise its head on this site.
It’s amazing, only when LSU has a black QB does that narrative raise its head on this site.
Posted on 2/21/19 at 9:14 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
bullshite
Link this up, Jethro.
Lets see it.
There is no link because you haven't bothered to tell that particular poster that he has to wait a few years to judge Orgeron like you've told me.
Hence the hypocrisy Roger.
Posted on 2/21/19 at 9:14 am to RB10
I wasn’t going back that far... 2013 was a great offense. Way better than 2018. I was talking more of 2014 and 2015. Plus after Miles left the whole offense didn’t look to the sideline every play to see what to do.... that’s not having trust in your an plain and simple.
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