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re: Coach O Is Crushing It
Posted on 2/19/19 at 5:32 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
Posted on 2/19/19 at 5:32 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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Orgeron has seen the writing on the wall, an HAS committed to the passing game - Most all LSU passing records will be smashed in '19
PS - The boosters were right. The only way to beat Saban is with a passing game. The recently-second-tier ACC program, Clemson has proven that theory beyond all doubt.
Unfortunately we went back into a shell vs Bama again. Instead of spreading them out we went back to the safe play calling and played right into Bama's hands.
As for Clemson, they were 11-2 when they beat us in 2012 and have had seasons of 11, 10, 14, 14, 12 and 15 wins. Averaging almost 12.5 wins over the last 7 years is not "recently second tier" is it?
This post was edited on 2/19/19 at 5:36 pm
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Posted on 2/19/19 at 5:33 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
You’re too dumb to get the point.
Winning fricking matters.
How you’re offense gets it’s yards doesn’t matter till you lose.
If LSU was running all over people in 2016 (which is what O did against shitty teams to GET this fricking job) It doesn’t matter what we pass for.
We were a shite passing team in 2010 and 2011, and Les wasn’t on the hot seat cause we were winning.
O needs to fricking win more games.
10 isn’t enough.
Next year the floor should be 11 and if he doesn’t get there his seat needs to be fricking hot.
Winning fricking matters.
How you’re offense gets it’s yards doesn’t matter till you lose.
If LSU was running all over people in 2016 (which is what O did against shitty teams to GET this fricking job) It doesn’t matter what we pass for.
We were a shite passing team in 2010 and 2011, and Les wasn’t on the hot seat cause we were winning.
O needs to fricking win more games.
10 isn’t enough.
Next year the floor should be 11 and if he doesn’t get there his seat needs to be fricking hot.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 5:34 pm to SammyTiger
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Hell if LF7 is 100% we probably start 4-0.
Wrong
We had Guice and Williams too. LF accounted for over half of our yardage vs WIsconsin
It was just an epic failure
This post was edited on 2/19/19 at 5:35 pm
Posted on 2/19/19 at 5:37 pm to lsu2006
quote:You don't know shite about ANY college football program, if you don't know who the shot-callers are. It's the boosters. Period. End of story. Miles thought he could "shine them on" and keep running the O any way he damn well pleased. How'd THAT work out.
You were an Ohio State fan back then. You don’t know what you’re talking about. At all. frick off. Thanks.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 5:38 pm to SammyTiger
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You’re too dumb to get the point. Winning fricking matters. How you’re offense gets it’s yards doesn’t matter till you lose. If LSU was running all over people in 2016 (which is what O did against shitty teams to GET this fricking job) It doesn’t matter what we pass for. We were a shite passing team in 2010 and 2011, and Les wasn’t on the hot seat cause we were winning. O needs to fricking win more games. 10 isn’t enough. Next year the floor should be 11 and if he doesn’t get there his seat needs to be fricking hot.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 5:40 pm to SammyTiger
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Winning fricking matters.
How you’re offense gets it’s yards doesn’t matter till you lose.
If LSU was running all over people in 2016 (which is what O did against shitty teams to GET this fricking job) It doesn’t matter what we pass for.
We were a shite passing team in 2010 and 2011, and Les wasn’t on the hot seat cause we were winning.
O needs to fricking win more games.
10 isn’t enough.
well, i will say this much regardless of scheme, form or what fashion we choose to take and play ball........at the end of the day he was hired to win HARDWARE. he has not done that. record wise he has done no better than Miles! that is the BOTTOM LINE!
This post was edited on 2/19/19 at 5:42 pm
Posted on 2/19/19 at 5:42 pm to BayouCowboy
quote:YES.
As for Clemson, they were 11-2 when they beat us in 2012 and have had seasons of 11, 10, 14, 14, 12 and 15 wins. Averaging almost 12.5 wins over the last 7 years is not "recently second tier" is it?
Prior to 2015, they were ranked in the top-5 ONCE in the previous 100 years.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 5:42 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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You don't know shite about ANY college football program, if you don't know who the shot-callers are. It's the boosters. Period. End of story.
Uh... no shite? What are you even arguing?
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Miles thought he could "shine them on" and keep running the O any way he damn well pleased. How'd THAT work out.
We lost two games we shouldn’t have and he was rightfully fired, albeit later than he should have been. He was fired because we had a championship caliber roster and were knocked out of championship contention by October, not because the offense wasn’t pretty. Do you really think he’d have been fired after the Auburn game had we pulled that off and won? It’s about winning and losing.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 5:43 pm to Fat Bastard
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he has not done that. record wise he has done no better than Miles! that is the BOTTOM LINE!
He's improved over Miles last 2 seasons and 4 games
Empirically. I'm not sure how you could refute that.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 5:43 pm to RogerTheShrubber
That’s not the point.
The point is we there were a lot of things wrong with the offense that Les could have changed that could have won those games.
We lost by 2 and 5 points.
But we didn’t win those games, and that’s why Les was fires.
If the Wisconsin kicker FG goes wide and we win that game 14-13 do you honestly think sales wouldnhave been fired after the Auburn game because we had another shitty passing offense?
If a healthy LF7 runs wild on Auburn like he did in 2015?
It’s doesnt matter how you win, if you keep winning.
The point is we there were a lot of things wrong with the offense that Les could have changed that could have won those games.
We lost by 2 and 5 points.
But we didn’t win those games, and that’s why Les was fires.
If the Wisconsin kicker FG goes wide and we win that game 14-13 do you honestly think sales wouldnhave been fired after the Auburn game because we had another shitty passing offense?
If a healthy LF7 runs wild on Auburn like he did in 2015?
It’s doesnt matter how you win, if you keep winning.
This post was edited on 2/19/19 at 5:44 pm
Posted on 2/19/19 at 5:45 pm to SammyTiger
Stats in those first four games were bad, change was supposed to be made and they weren’t.
2016 Stats
2016 Stats
Posted on 2/19/19 at 5:46 pm to lsu2006
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Do you really think he’d have been fired after the Auburn game had we pulled that off and won? It’s about winning and losing.
This. Did the offense contribute to those losses? Of course, but win those and Miles doesn't get fired. If he had changed the offense and lossed those games he still would probably have been fired.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 5:46 pm to OTIS2
not 
Posted on 2/19/19 at 5:48 pm to TigerLunatik
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Did the offense contribute to those losses? Of course, but win those and Miles doesn't get fired.
But they didn’t win. And they didn’t win because the offense was bad and no change was made after job saving promised were made.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 5:49 pm to The First Cut
They were terrible.
But again, we were so fricking close.
And we didn’t fire miles till he lost to Auburn and we were 2-2.
Realistically if he pulled out the Auburn game, he isn’t getting fired that week despite his shitty passing game.
Correct?
So what matters more thenpassing game or winning.
The answer of course is winning. The passing game is just a PART of it.
If the other parts were good enough to compensate Les would still be here. But they weren’t.
So my overall point is: O needs to win more. Passing more isn’t enough.
But again, we were so fricking close.
And we didn’t fire miles till he lost to Auburn and we were 2-2.
Realistically if he pulled out the Auburn game, he isn’t getting fired that week despite his shitty passing game.
Correct?
So what matters more thenpassing game or winning.
The answer of course is winning. The passing game is just a PART of it.
If the other parts were good enough to compensate Les would still be here. But they weren’t.
So my overall point is: O needs to win more. Passing more isn’t enough.
This post was edited on 2/19/19 at 5:50 pm
Posted on 2/19/19 at 5:49 pm to The First Cut
Ok. So was he fired for losing or for not changing the offense? The statement was made that he was fired for not changing the offense and that it wasn't the losses.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 5:49 pm to The First Cut
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But they didn’t win. And they didn’t win because the offense was bad and no change was made after job saving promised were made.
Exactly. But there are people in here arguing his firing wasn’t about winning or losing but the mere fact that the offense wasn’t improved/changed in of itself. Which is, of course, absurd.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 5:50 pm to SammyTiger
Doesn’t matter. Win Auburn and lose later get fired later. The offense was terrible in those first four games, nothing was going to change later. More losses wouldn’ve likely occurred.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 5:51 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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It was just an epic failure
Something like being defeated in Baton Rouge by Troy or Alabama 29-0 or having a three year run of Alabama defeats of 63-10. That's the epic failure we see now. Not much has changed.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 5:51 pm to tibebecolston
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He didn’t inherit a stacked roster but appears to be making it better each year. Ascension is what we prefer, no?
Yes he did. Les' last 3 classes actually average a hire ranking than Eds first two. You can't sit here and say that then praise Ed for having 1 good class to Miles several over a decade.
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