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re: Coach O Is Crushing It

Posted on 2/21/19 at 5:05 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 2/21/19 at 5:05 pm to
That's correct. The sec west champ has been defacto sec champ for 10 years.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48219 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 5:05 pm to
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Jj was a product of a dysfunctional offense


What are you talking about? Scheme doesnt matter unless you have less polished talent.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
108452 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 5:06 pm to
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His 2006 season is the season every lsu qb is judged by.

Could have very easily been a Heisman finalist that season. Maybe should have been one.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298386 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 5:06 pm to
Miles was a terrible developer of qb talent.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38655 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 5:07 pm to
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It's necessary but just means you were better than half your conference.


No, it means you were the best in your division.

For all of your comments about "speed" to winning, you do win in increments. Prove you can win your division and compete for your conference. Prove you can win your conference. Prove you can win your playoff game and compete for the NC. Prove you can win the NC.

That's how this works.
Posted by Spotswoode
Mount Rushmore
Member since Aug 2018
1594 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 5:08 pm to
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O lost 2 games he shouldn't won 2 games he shouldn't had a poor offense, and did not prove he could clearly and consistently beat top teams every week, which is the only way he's going to ever compete for a championship. It was very much a Miles season.

I think beating Georgia, winning 10, and omly one bad loss sets this season above anything Miles did since about 2012. We were a fluke call from beating A&M for a 11 win season.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298386 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 5:10 pm to
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Prove you can win your division and compete for your conference. Prove you can win your conference. Prove you can win your playoff game and compete for the NC. Prove you can win the NC. 



The sec west is unique. Only Auburn failed to win the sec championship after winning the west in the last 10 years
This post was edited on 2/21/19 at 5:13 pm
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 5:15 pm to
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By the end of the year, absolutely.


Last four games of the season.

Defensive passing rankings.

Arkansas: #87
Rice: #125
Texas A&M: #98
UCF: #49

I would hope so after facing those juggernauts.

quote:

The running game sucked.


Worse rushing offense we've had in 10 years.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 5:17 pm to
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There is absolutely 0 evidence that O can 1) Win any type of hardware 2) Beat top level teams and coaches consistently 3) Lead a Top 5 Program

None. There is only "hope" and "optimism" There's zero evidence.

And, it's quite clear, O will be a disaster without Aranda



Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298386 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 5:19 pm to
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Worse rushing offense we've had in 10 years.


Yep

But it's been addressed. I think you'll see a balanced, more explosive offense this season.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48219 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 5:20 pm to
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Miles was a terrible developer of qb talent


He was worse at projecting qb talent from HS to college.

But i do like how youre admitting bad play is a product of coaching and not talent.
This post was edited on 2/21/19 at 5:21 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79395 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 5:21 pm to
Except 2017
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 5:21 pm to
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You cant be a champ without hardware corky



Not true. Bama didn't play in a division championship or conference championship in 2011. They jumped straight to the NC while LSU had to beat Georgia for the privilege of playing.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216446 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 5:22 pm to
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We played 4 p5 programs that were good enough to not lose 5 games last year. We went 1-3. The 2 best wins of ed orgeron's life is a beating a team that finished with 3 losses and a team that finished with 4 losses. Thats not a fricking narrative. Thats a fact. You know there was a time not to long ago where it was considered great to beat inferior teams. In 2 years o has beaten 2 p5 teams with more than 8 wins. 2. Thats not a narrative. Its a fact



I have ZERO problems with you posting this....


but WHY??????

What is your reason other than trying to BASH the current coach...............


I just don't get your agenda here...........
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298386 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 5:22 pm to
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But i do like how youre admitting bad play is a product of coaching and not talent.


It can be both, but no position requires more development than QB. Les couldn't do it
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216446 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 5:23 pm to
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true. Bama didn't play in a division championship or conference championship in 2011. They jumped straight to the NC while LSU had to beat Georgia for the privilege of playing.



FACT...................
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52092 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 5:23 pm to
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I think beating Georgia, winning 10, and omly one bad loss sets this season above anything Miles did since about 2012. We were a fluke call from beating A&M for a 11 win season.


You’d be wrong. Shocker.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 5:24 pm to
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Worse rushing offense we've had in 10 years.


Yep

But it's been addressed. I think you'll see a balanced, more explosive offense this season



I'm guessing that the rushing offense was a surprise to some people. Everybody knew or should've known that the rushing offense was taking a step back for 2018. How could that have been a surprise.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216446 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 5:25 pm to
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but no position requires more development than QB. Les couldn't do it




I agree wit this.... Too bad the Miles lovers will never admit to it being true.....

However... You are getting your arse handed to you in this thread... You are an older guy like me who has been around the block when it comes to sports.... But sometimes its just time to step back and let it go......
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89667 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 5:25 pm to
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Miles was a terrible developer of qb talent.


I agree, but so are others. He had 4 QBs drafted that played under him and at least one more that made a roster.

3 of them started in the NFL. I try and look around the sec during that time and only Spurrier came to my mind that could probably beat that.

Oh shite, Richt too. Kind of forgot about him. And actually maybe not SC Spurrier.
This post was edited on 2/21/19 at 5:27 pm
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