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re: Coach O Is Crushing It

Posted on 2/21/19 at 12:57 pm to
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 12:57 pm to
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We understand boosters

It’s the rest of your post that’s bullshite

You understand that THEY run almost evrey major football program in the nation? THEY are the shotcallers. The AD;s work for them. You understand that? I doubt it.

And you know that the boosters had Miles word that he would revamp and modernize his offense? And that Miles did nothing of the sort? And THAT's why Miles got fired? You know that. No you don't Yoy think it was X's and O's, or W's and L's. It wasn't.

But, everyone in the country who knows much about how the game works id FULLY aware of it.

You're clueless. LOL
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79401 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 12:59 pm to
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Well, the stats didn't get crazy until just a few years ago. Particularly in the SEC.


That’s not the point.

Burrows played in 2018 and still couldn’t beat records from 18 or 12 years ago.

He could break 3000
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33963 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 1:00 pm to
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Absolutely. But it was clearly a problem toward the end of 2015. We couldn't win with that offense.



We still went 9-3, would've been 10-3 if not for Nicholls which of course wasn't played.

That's a pretty good record. How is it a problem?
This post was edited on 2/21/19 at 1:01 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298489 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 1:00 pm to
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Burrows played in 2018 and still couldn’t beat records from 18 or 12 years ago.




We'll see 3200-3300 this year.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 1:00 pm to
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It's amazing that you think boosters really care about anything other than 1) Making Money and 2) Winning

And 2 enhances 1. Always.


It's amazing that you think a college coach can bullshite these guys, and still keep his job.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79401 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 1:02 pm to
It’s amazing you think boosters would fire a HC who was winning NCs for bullshitting them.

You’re grasp of LSU history is fricking terrible.

We averaged 150 yards passing a game in 2011.

Winning matters more than anything else to everyone
This post was edited on 2/21/19 at 1:03 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298489 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 1:02 pm to
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That's a pretty good record. How is it a problem?


It's not a bad record, but losing three in a row by double digit scores really sucked.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298489 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 1:07 pm to
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We averaged 150 yards passing a game in 2011.


It was a strange year, didn't need huge numbers because of superior field position.

However the passing game was extremely efficient. Probably in the top 2-3 of Miles tenure at LSU
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 1:07 pm to
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And you know that the boosters had Miles word that he would revamp and modernize his offense? And that Miles did nothing of the sort? And THAT's why Miles got fired? You know that. No you don't Yoy think it was X's and O's, or W's and L's. It wasn't.


You're wrong. and we obviously know that...but let's take this part and unpack it a bit, because I think it illustrates one of my major fears in having Orgeron at the helm.

Let's assume for a second this fricking clown from Ohio is even partly correct...why on Earth would we as fans want a local guy, with the most obvious and crass local connections WE ALL ALREADY KNOW ABOUT at the helm of the LSU Football program if wins and losses don't fricking matter...just that the booster get fed at the trough? As fans, isn't that what WE ultimately care about?

Awesome...wonderful endorsement for Orgeron, bud. You just described Ed Orgeron as the boosters' Yes Man.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48229 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 1:08 pm to
Show me these 3rd down passing stats from 2011 rodge.

I readily admit 2011 was more efficient but you in no way were talking abiur efficient.you used totals and ssid no team with those stats could win the sec and when proven wrong you changed your stance to efficiency. Do you see why people have a problem with that sort of posting?
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 1:09 pm to
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You’re grasp of LSU history is fricking terrible.

We averaged 150 yards passing a game in 2011.

Winning matters more than anything else to everyone

Maybe you're simply not capable of grasping the backroom politics of college football. Do your homework.

And Miles promised the boosters that he's revamp the offense, and put in a passing game. He didn't do it.
THAT'S what got him fired.
This post was edited on 2/21/19 at 1:10 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79401 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 1:09 pm to
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You understand that THEY run almost evrey major football program in the nation? THEY are the shotcallers. The AD;s work for them. You understand that? I doubt it.


Sure

quote:

And you know that the boosters had Miles word that he would revamp and modernize his offense? And that Miles did nothing of the sort? And THAT's why Miles got fired? You know that. No you don't Yoy think it was X's and O's, or W's and L's. It wasn't.


Made up bullshite

It’s like you can’t distiguish the 2.

You keep pretending that we don’t get the boosters wanted Les gone.

Most of the fan base did including the boosters.

But you’re the only person on earth who thinks it’s only because less lies about the passing game. He also never made a promise to make a modern offense. He kept the same OC.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298489 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 1:10 pm to
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I readily admit 2011 was more efficient


You did it!
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48229 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 1:10 pm to
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And you know that the boosters had Miles word that he would revamp and modernize his offense?


bullshite
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33963 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 1:11 pm to
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It's not a bad record, but losing three in a row by double digit scores really sucked.



What's the difference? 3 losses are better when they're spaced out through the course of the year instead of consecutively?
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48229 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 1:12 pm to
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You did it!

Youre gonna gloss over the fact that efficiency was in no way what you posted?
You posted totals and said no team with those stats could win the sec. When i posted a less productive offensive total winning the sec, you switched to efficiency.
This post was edited on 2/21/19 at 1:13 pm
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 1:13 pm to
I'm the ONLY one who thinks that?

ESPN:

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Alleva told Miles the decision was made late Saturday night. In reality, it was probably made last year, when Miles survived a coup in the final hour after beating Texas A&M late in the season. It was only a reprieve, though, because the same power brokers who wanted Miles out didn't go anywhere. And Miles was either too hardheaded or too loyal, and maybe both, to make any sweeping changes on offense.


quote:

But as the college game started to change, Miles dug his heels deeper in the Louisiana soil, and while everybody else was spreading it out, running tempo, finding ways to be creative and scoring points, Miles was still trying to do it his way. The hard way.

It cost him his job.
This post was edited on 2/21/19 at 1:14 pm
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
108517 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 1:15 pm to
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why on Earth would we as fans want a local guy, with the most obvious and crass local connections WE ALL ALREADY KNOW ABOUT at the helm of the LSU Football program if wins and losses don't fricking matter...just that the booster get fed at the trough? As fans, isn't that what WE ultimately care about?

I have the same kind of thought when people say that Canada was forced on Orgeron. It doesn't make sense to me that they would demand Canada one season then turn around and be ok with hiring the TE coach the next.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 1:15 pm to
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I'm the ONLY one who thinks that?


Your retort was re-posting the same article?

Oh...never mind. I think we all agree now that we've read it a second time.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48229 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 1:15 pm to
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But as the college game started to change, Miles dug his heels deeper in the Louisiana soil, and while everybody else was spreading it out, running tempo, finding ways to be creative and scoring points, Miles was still trying to do it his way. The hard way. 




Did you see lsu spreading anyone out this year or did you see the same max protect eligible formations?
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