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Posted on 10/17/19 at 9:33 am to Yeahright
So many people on here saying that Coach O was lucky to have had Joe Burrow fall into his lap. He deserves credit, like you said.
What about Lincoln Riley? Is he not regarded as one of the best offensive minds in CFB? He’s on his 3rd transfer QB. Fact is, you still have to coach ‘em up when they get to campus.
What about Lincoln Riley? Is he not regarded as one of the best offensive minds in CFB? He’s on his 3rd transfer QB. Fact is, you still have to coach ‘em up when they get to campus.
Posted on 10/17/19 at 9:33 am to Yeahright
Is it a Genius move to completely upgrade your QB room? No
Is it a very good move? Yes.
Is it a very good move? Yes.
Posted on 10/17/19 at 9:34 am to 225Tyga
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LUCKY
Luck? No sir. Credit the head coach for everything good, and blame the head coach for everything bad, that happens to the program. If a player drops a ball, that's the head coach's fault. If a player breaks a tackle credit the head coach.
Posted on 10/17/19 at 9:35 am to Reasonable227
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I'd like these guys to breakdown the % of plays that Brady calls in a game. These guys on here act like Steve is scrolling Facebook during the game while Brady runs the offense. The reality is that these guys know absolutely nothing about what's going into running this offense, and who is behind it. I'll admit I don't know. But, E is getting totally disrespected when it is highly likely that he is a very important piece in making this offense tick.
Never seen anything like this. The idea that pointing out that it's obvious as day a guy came in and everything changed is somehow seen as bashing someone else.
EVERYONE likes Ensminger. He's ACTUALLY a Tiger through and through. The fact that most here were not enthusiastic about him taking over the OC job was based on him having never been an elite OC, and the last time he'd ever had the job full time was the late 90's.
We also have data in hand that the 2018 offense was NOTHING like what we're seeing this year. Not just in terms of productivity,. but it total scheme.
In walks Brady...
Now...we can go on and continue acting as if Steve had this scheme in his back pocket all along and it magically manifested itself this year when Brady happened along, or we can credit the most likely source for the change.
But crediting Brady for this change does not mean anyone HATES Ensminger. just that he's not the most obvious or likely reason for where we are right now.
Posted on 10/17/19 at 9:37 am to Penrod
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Credit the head coach for everything good, and blame the head coach for everything bad, that happens to the program. If a player drops a ball, that's the head coach's fault. If a player breaks a tackle credit the head coach.
Posted on 10/17/19 at 9:39 am to Todd O'Connor
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Is it a Genius move to completely upgrade your QB room? No Is it a very good move? Yes.
Now we’re arguing semantics and common deliberate exaggeration.
Posted on 10/17/19 at 9:39 am to GeauxTigerTM
Luck is Baker Mayfield showing up in Norman without ever even talking to Stoops about walking on.
O took ownership of his program and upgraded a need position by way of the transfer portal. That has more to do with diligence, then luck.
O took ownership of his program and upgraded a need position by way of the transfer portal. That has more to do with diligence, then luck.
Posted on 10/17/19 at 9:41 am to Mohican
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You are Exhibit A.
And you've already proven that your full of shite.
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Give him credit. It’s okay. It’s not so hard.
I have. A lot. You apparently not being able to read is not my concern.
Posted on 10/17/19 at 9:43 am to GeauxTigerTM
No one said hates. Brady introduced something he carried over from the saints, which was huge for us. That's why they brought him in. That doesn't mean he is the Mastermind behind the lsu playcalling. In fact, it is not known at all how skillful he is at playcalling. I think it's a great combo, and I'm very happy Brady is here. The good thing though is that the coaching staff knows who is doing what. My only point is that none of you know who is actually calling the games. That part is a big difference from implementing a piece of the offense.
Posted on 10/17/19 at 9:44 am to Reasonable227
I don't think anyone would argue that Ensminger is the one calling the games. In your opinion, who installed and designed the offense this season?
Posted on 10/17/19 at 9:44 am to Reasonable227
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That doesn't mean he is the Mastermind behind the lsu playcalling.
Brady is absolutely the mastermind of this offense. He and E call plays at whatever percentage they do, but E is not capable of creating this offense. He's been here for 10 years, he wasn't just sitting on this offense waiting for the right time to bust it out.
ETA: And this is not a post meant to say E is a bad coach or anything else like that which I assume is how some are going to choose to take it.
This post was edited on 10/17/19 at 9:48 am
Posted on 10/17/19 at 9:47 am to TigerLunatik
Designed? Brady. Installed? Both. Just because E wasn't an RPO expert, doesn't mean that he doesn't have more overall knowledge than Brady. Particularly in regards to playcalling. They work great together, for sure.
Posted on 10/17/19 at 9:48 am to Mohican
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Why is it so hard to give O credit for going and getting Burrow?
Can I give him credit for going out and getting him without saying that makes him a genius? I mean, it's kind of a no-brainer that when a guy like him is available and expresses interest in your school, you should at least make an effort to get him. I would say it's more about O and Ensminger being outstanding salesmen and doing a great job of selling the program to him than any kind of stroke of "genius".
Posted on 10/17/19 at 9:48 am to Reasonable227
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No one said hates.
You didn't, but others have made that leap when anyone dares talk up the impact Brady has obviously had. I took that opportunity to add it there.
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That doesn't mean he is the Mastermind behind the lsu play calling. In fact, it is not known at all how skillful he is at play calling.
Likewise, we don't know he isn't. what we know, is that our offense in 2019 is entirely different than last year, when Steve was running it on his own. It doesn't matter to me in any way who's doing what. The only thing I'm acknowledging is that WITHOUT Brady (or someone else who was going to bring an offense from outside of LSU in to install) we'd still be running last year's offense.
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That part is a big difference from implementing a piece of the offense.
And what I'm saying is that without bringing in the new offense, there would be nothing to call but last year's offense...and we all wanted to change that. Therefore, Brady has obviously been the biggest most important part of this new offense. To say that Is NOT a shot at Steve, it's...dare I say, the only reasonable belief here.
Posted on 10/17/19 at 9:51 am to Mohican
IIRC McMillan was #1 coming out of spring.
Posted on 10/17/19 at 9:51 am to LNCHBOX
Absolutely. Brady was tutored under Sean. E wasn't familiar with the RPO, firsthand. Doesn't mean E isn't the better playcaller or has more offensive knowledge. He played qb for LSU, as you know. I'm sure there are many things Brady is lacking and is learning from Steve. You can bet Steve knows the RPO now. Never too late to learn.
Posted on 10/17/19 at 9:53 am to Reasonable227
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Absolutely. Brady was tutored under Sean. E wasn't familiar with the RPO, firsthand. Doesn't mean E isn't the better playcaller or has more offensive knowledge. He played qb for LSU, as you know. I'm sure there are many things Brady is lacking and is learning from Steve. You can bet Steve knows the RPO now. Never too late to learn.
I just don't get why we can't acknowledge that the offense is incredibly different from last year (and 2016 when E filled in as OC as well), and the only variable is Brady. It's no different than giving O credit for all the right moves he's made lately.
Posted on 10/17/19 at 9:54 am to lsu2006
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Can I give him credit for going out and getting him without saying that makes him a genius?
C'mon man. This is crazy talk.
Posted on 10/17/19 at 9:56 am to LNCHBOX
I've acknowledged it. Brady was huge. The offense wouldn't be where it is without him. That said, doesn't mean he is a better OC than Steve. He may be. Time will tell. The other Joe has a little to do with this massive success as well. Just like brees with the saints.
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