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re: Coach O expects Pelini to move to a 4-3 “attacking” defense
Posted on 2/6/20 at 11:17 am to LSUTigers_00
Posted on 2/6/20 at 11:17 am to LSUTigers_00
BLITZ BLITZ BLITZ!!!
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Posted on 2/6/20 at 11:25 am to cas4t
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Guess we will see. I’ve personally liked the 3-4.
It really revolves around the personnel and I think we have the personnel to go with a great 4 man rush and still get pressure along with some fancy blitz packages here and there.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 11:30 am to Ace Midnight
i said since his HS tape that Stevens should be a LB. he's not far from a WLB in a 4-3 for sure
i don't why people are freaking out about the 4-3. even guys like Saban and Bill B are moving more towards 4-3 base
with all the 5 DB formations we play, we're going to have 4 down guys all the time. 2 interior and 2 edge.
i don't why people are freaking out about the 4-3. even guys like Saban and Bill B are moving more towards 4-3 base
with all the 5 DB formations we play, we're going to have 4 down guys all the time. 2 interior and 2 edge.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 1:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i don't why people are freaking out about the 4-3.
Me either - you're only going to have a third LB on first down - maybe. that's if you're facing fewer than 3 WRs, frankly.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 1:28 pm to LSUTigers_00
Idk why this is such hot news. O stated this on OTB days before the Pelini hire announcement.
He said he wanted a more traditional attacking defense. This was like last week.
He said he wanted a more traditional attacking defense. This was like last week.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 1:56 pm to Ace Midnight
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you're only going to have a third LB on first down - maybe. that's if you're facing fewer than 3 WRs, frankly.
yeah exactly, and i doubt on passing downs we would rely on much 1-gap penetration with our nose-types
just b/c we run a 4-3 doesn't mean we're going back to saban and his 290+ lb DEs
Danielle Hunter played at a great level at LSU and in the NFL out of the 4-3 at 6-5, 245 or so. same size as our edge guys nows
Posted on 2/6/20 at 2:04 pm to Lester Earl
quote:I agree I can't imagine going back to the 4-3, but hell if you can get a Burch type, you could make it work easily
I like 3-4 too. Better against the spread
Posted on 2/6/20 at 2:11 pm to tigerfoot
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agree I can't imagine going back to the 4-3
you can't imagine it because you have no clue what a modern 4-3 looks like
This isn't 2003 or even 2007 with 4 285+ # guys on the DL
Posted on 2/6/20 at 2:23 pm to Midtiger farm
quote:Who said it was.
you can't imagine it because you have no clue what a modern 4-3 looks like
This isn't 2003 or even 2007 with 4 285+ # guys on the DL
But there are advantages allowed by a 3 man front that are obvious when looking at the spread.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 2:35 pm to tigerfoot
I do not think we have been running a true 3-4,
nor do I think we will run a true 4-3
FWIW
nor do I think we will run a true 4-3
FWIW
Posted on 2/6/20 at 2:43 pm to rbdallas
quote:When we had Shelvin over center we were about as true to the 3-4 as you can get. What athlete you have around the edges and at OLB may allow for different schemes, but it is a 304
3-4,
Posted on 2/6/20 at 3:33 pm to Ace Midnight
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I don’t know why people are freaking out about the 4-3
Because you have a bunch of posters on here that think they know football .
They actually don’t know shite about schemes .
The funny thing is that they actually believe they know more than Coach O about what defense LSU should run
Posted on 2/6/20 at 5:24 pm to rbdallas
I agree, that's the thing I've been trying to say, with the offenses now, you can't run a "true" 3-4 or 4-3.
Aranda's defense, majority of the time, had 3 d-linemen, 3 Lb's and 5 db's personnel wise ( not a true 3-4 personnel wise). When aligned, with Chaisson rolled up on the LOS you get a 4-2-5 alignment.
Aranda's defense, majority of the time, had 3 d-linemen, 3 Lb's and 5 db's personnel wise ( not a true 3-4 personnel wise). When aligned, with Chaisson rolled up on the LOS you get a 4-2-5 alignment.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 6:24 pm to LSUTigers_00
Question about the 4-3 vs 3-4 debate...
Is it absolutely necessary to be one or the other? Why can’t a team do both depending on personnel/opponent?
Is it absolutely necessary to be one or the other? Why can’t a team do both depending on personnel/opponent?
Posted on 2/6/20 at 6:44 pm to LSUTigers_00
Aranda played bend but don't break against inferior teams too many times and it made the defense look soft. They nutted up in big games I will give them that but I'm ready for the smash mouth defense we used to play and couple that with this new offense ....look out!
Posted on 2/6/20 at 8:24 pm to tigerfoot
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When we had Shelvin over center we were about as true to the 3-4 as you can get. What athlete you have around the edges and at OLB may allow for different schemes, but it is a 304
nothing prevents using a DT in that same 2-gap role in a 4-3
i don't get why so many fans are so fixated on 2-gap play also. neither Bama nor Clemson rely on that and both love 4 down linemen
1-gap, penetrating DL means disrupting DL. that's what you want against all offenses (including the spread)
Posted on 2/6/20 at 8:26 pm to JPLSU1981
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Is it absolutely necessary to be one or the other?
no. the Pats use both
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Why can’t a team do both depending on personnel/opponent?
in the pros, it's about limited roster spots and depth
in college, it's about limited coaching time/coaches
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