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Posted on 2/6/20 at 5:00 am to LSUTigers_00
Chiefs switched to 4-3, won Super Bowl
Posted on 2/6/20 at 5:47 am to LSUTigers_00
its Going to be hard with no d linemen..
Posted on 2/6/20 at 6:42 am to SoFunnyItsNot
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Steele's 4-3 has only been good because he had the best D line in the nation. we don't have Brown and Davidson.. and we definitely don't have the talent on D line we had back in the mid 2000s.
This class with Roy, Guillory, Ojulari will help as far as talent on the DL to switch to the 4-3...Burch would put this DL class into another level altogether, possibly resulting in one of the best LSU DL's of all time in 2 or 3 years!
Posted on 2/6/20 at 7:03 am to LSUTigers_00
Reading this thread, I think we should run a 1-6.
Let the 1 eat up all the blocks and the other 6 can make plays on QB/rb. Fool proof.
Let the 1 eat up all the blocks and the other 6 can make plays on QB/rb. Fool proof.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 7:28 am to sunnydaze
quote:
Brooks is an OLB for sure in a 4-3
This... Brooks will add 10 or so pounds and be a weak side OLB. Be free to use his athleticism to roam sideline to sideline, be utilized is blitz packages, and occasionally cover the flat or the RB in man depending on the coverage called.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 8:02 am to SoFunnyItsNot
quote:It's not just about this upcoming season. We expect this to be a long stay for Pellini and it will be a transition. It can get to the Kevin Steele level at Auburn but it will take some time to get things in place.
One slightly down year and people act like Aranda wasn't the fricking truth.... YOU WANNA KNOW WHO ALSO RUNS A 4-3.... God Damn Kevin Steele. Do we have that short of a memory? We were horrible under him in the 4-3.... and you have to love recruiting and building kids for one scheme.. just to change it now. Say goodbye to players like Marcel Brooks and Divinity rushing the passer. They are far too small to rush the passer in a 4-3.
Steele's 4-3 has only been good because he had the best D line in the nation. we don't have Brown and Davidson.. and we definitely don't have the talent on D line we had back in the mid 2000s. we are about to lose A TON of athleticism at edge. you guys wonder why we have been so great at stopping running QBs the past few years...
This post was edited on 2/5 at 3:41 pm
Posted on 2/6/20 at 8:12 am to deaux
quote:
I think we see a more 4-2-5 base look than traditional 4-3, which should be fine against the spread.
This... With the guys we have coming in plus the ones we already have playing the back end I can see a 4-2-5 base adjusting into a 4-3 if needed. It's going to be fun to watch IMO.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 8:51 am to LSUTigers_00
I want whatever the 49ers were doing most of the SB where 4 down linemen were getting insane pressure leaving 7 guys in coverage.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 9:07 am to SoFunnyItsNot
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One slightly down year and people act like Aranda wasn't the fricking truth
It wasn't even really a down year. It only looks bad because of the yards we gave up after the game was well in hand. The idiots want to ignore how many tough offenses we played as well as overlook the positive stats.
We were 7th in total defense for yards and scoring. That doesn't sound great, but would you really trade LSU's defense for Missouri's, Kentucky's, or Tennessee's?
We were 1st in 3rd down conversion %.
2nd in sacks.
1st in interceptions.
5th in 1st downs allowed.
4th in punts forced per play.
5th in rushing yards allowed per attempt.
1st in opponent completion %.
The defense did what it needed to do when they needed to do it and improved throughout the year.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 9:13 am to TenWheelsForJesus
quote:I'm not shitting on Aranda but you are wrong. There were plenty of yards given up before games were in hand.
It only looks bad because of the yards we gave up after the game was well in hand.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 9:24 am to LSUTigers_00
With the way football is evolving you gotta have more talent and more depth in the backfield... A 3-4 was a beautiful system IMO. 
Posted on 2/6/20 at 9:28 am to LouisianaWhipDancer
Remember when this board was jonesing for a 3-4 because that’s what Bama does? Lol
Posted on 2/6/20 at 9:28 am to Lark225
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Coverage scheme wise aranda is the best..never really seen alot of blown assignments or guys out of place in his defense...blitz wise aranda was so so..he could have if he wanted to but aranda likes to play numbers against yards
agree... Aranda could have attacked more, he chose to rely on his athletes to make plays... i think Aranda was brilliant scheme and adjustments wise... I prefer the 3/4, just an attacking 3/4... Put im very happy with the Pelini hire for sure... i think it was the best guy he could have gotten imo...
Posted on 2/6/20 at 9:29 am to SoFunnyItsNot
I never supported continuing to use Marcel Brooks as only a third-down pass-rush specialist. He's is far too talented to waste him as only a third-down pass-rush specialist.
In any event, now that LSU is transforming to a 4-3 defense, then, in my opinion, Marcel Brooks should be moved to the strong-safety position to make him an every-down player and where he can still be used to blitz the passer in the A and B gaps in the same way Chad Jones used to do.
In any event, now that LSU is transforming to a 4-3 defense, then, in my opinion, Marcel Brooks should be moved to the strong-safety position to make him an every-down player and where he can still be used to blitz the passer in the A and B gaps in the same way Chad Jones used to do.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 9:43 am to TeamCKennedy
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This... Brooks will add 10 or so pounds and be a weak side OLB. Be free to use his athleticism to roam sideline to sideline, be utilized is blitz packages, and occasionally cover the flat or the RB in man depending on the coverage called.
In my opinion, Jacoby Stevens should be moved to the will linebacker spot and Marcel Brooks should be moved to strong safety. Stevens has the better size to play at the will linebacker spot and Brooks has the talent to play safety and to blitz up the A and B gaps the same way Chad Jones used to do.
This post was edited on 2/6/20 at 9:47 am
Posted on 2/6/20 at 9:57 am to NattyTiger19
Aranda was great at scheming weaknesses in offenses and attacking it with creative blitzes. Last season I think they said we only sent 4 rushers on nearly 80-90% of our plays. He just confused the offense and blocking schemes with where the pressure was going to come from.
Aranda also did a helluva job getting production from our LBs with guys like Duke Riley, Kendall Beckwith, Devin White, Patrick Queen, and Jacob Phillips. Not to mention Chaisson. Turned those guys into high picks and made them a lot of money.
We had great LBs before these past 4 years like Minter, K.Sheppard, P.Riley, L.Barrow that I’m sure would have been as productive or more productive than Patrick Queen and Jacob Phillips. Even a guy like B.Mingo would have killed it in Aranda’s 3-4 like Chaisson.
Aranda also did a helluva job getting production from our LBs with guys like Duke Riley, Kendall Beckwith, Devin White, Patrick Queen, and Jacob Phillips. Not to mention Chaisson. Turned those guys into high picks and made them a lot of money.
We had great LBs before these past 4 years like Minter, K.Sheppard, P.Riley, L.Barrow that I’m sure would have been as productive or more productive than Patrick Queen and Jacob Phillips. Even a guy like B.Mingo would have killed it in Aranda’s 3-4 like Chaisson.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 9:59 am to LSUTigers_00
It’s going to be a 3.5-3.5-2.5-1.5
Or a
3
1
3
2
1
1
Just kidding.
But we are going to need about
43 men on scholarship on defense
39 men on scholarship on offense
3 Men on scholarship on ST
Need more on defense to be able to successfully play different offenses in the sec.
Or a
3
1
3
2
1
1
Just kidding.
But we are going to need about
43 men on scholarship on defense
39 men on scholarship on offense
3 Men on scholarship on ST
Need more on defense to be able to successfully play different offenses in the sec.
This post was edited on 2/6/20 at 10:03 am
Posted on 2/6/20 at 10:20 am to SoFunnyItsNot
quote:
One slightly down year and people act like Aranda wasn't the fricking truth.... YOU WANNA KNOW WHO ALSO RUNS A 4-3.... God Damn Kevin Steele. Do we have that short of a memory? We were horrible under him in the 4-3.... and you have to love recruiting and building kids for one scheme.. just to change it now. Say goodbye to players like Marcel Brooks and Divinity rushing the passer. They are far too small to rush the passer in a 4-3.
Steele's 4-3 has only been good because he had the best D line in the nation. we don't have Brown and Davidson.. and we definitely don't have the talent on D line we had back in the mid 2000s. we are about to lose A TON of athleticism at edge. you guys wonder why we have been so great at stopping running QBs the past few years...
Stop. Please stop.
There are so many variations of the 4-3. Steele ‘s 4-3 run is very similar to Chavis’: the old Miami 4-3 style.
Don’t get caught up in the odd and even fronts stuff because it is 100% more complex than just a 4-3 vs 3-4.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 11:11 am to NattyTiger19
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In my opinion, Jacoby Stevens should be moved to the will linebacker spot and Marcel Brooks should be moved to strong safety.
Yeah - this makes a lot of sense. Brooks is a smaller, very athletic hybrid (I hesitate to say it, but almost a bigger Mathieu) - could play LB, safety, even nickel (depending on opposing personnel) and Stevens is a huge, physical safety, so ideal for a transition to OLB.
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