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re: Coach O expects Pelini to move to a 4-3 “attacking” defense

Posted on 2/5/20 at 3:54 pm to
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 2/5/20 at 3:54 pm to
Yep. Prolly see plenty 4-2-5.
Posted by des4271
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 2/5/20 at 3:58 pm to
I totally agree with this, people are getting caught up in the 4-3 and 3-4 and neither are rarely played in it's true form personnel wise nowadays because of mismatches against the spreads.
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 2/5/20 at 3:58 pm to
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Bro WHAT... Isaiah Simmons is 6'4 23.... Marcel Brooks is 6'2 194... you CANNOT play 4-3 end at that size.


Isiah simmons doesn't play end dumbass and he barely lines up there. He lines up at OLB / slot corner/safety
Brooks will be 220+ by next season

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Most 3-4 outside rushers ONLY rush the passer. will sometimes make a play on the ball carrier. but that's not what there are there for. Von Miller is there to attack the QB.. not tackle ball carriers for a 3 yard gain


Eating up blocks in a 3-4 is only in 2-gap scheme which Aranda liked to run. Most teams now run a 3-4 1 gap scheme were the DL attack more with lighter more athletic DL
DL especially end are also becoming lighter and more athletic in 4-3 defenses

So Chaisson and Key didn't play the run? Bama's OLB sure do tackle the ball carrier a lot
Posted by bopper50
Sugarland Texas
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Posted on 2/5/20 at 3:59 pm to
I expect 4-2-5 as the staple.
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4229 posts
Posted on 2/5/20 at 4:02 pm to
Given LSU's DL depth next year vs LB depth, it makes sense to get 4 DL on the field. That and the Secondary are going to be the strength of the Defense.
Posted by des4271
Member since Oct 2014
4556 posts
Posted on 2/5/20 at 4:02 pm to
In 3rd and long passing downs just like this year Marcel can absolutely line up at end.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 2/5/20 at 4:08 pm to
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Isaiah Simmons is 6'4 23.... Marcel Brooks is 6'2 194... you CANNOT play 4-3 end at that size.

you can't play 4-3 at either of their size so wtf are you talking about?

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He is able to rush the passer in a 3-4 because you have 3 big guys eating blocks and stuffing the run.

oh

wow

yeah ok cool

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some of you need to google 4-3 and 3-4 defenses before we start talking about them seriously.


Posted by SoFunnyItsNot
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 2/5/20 at 4:17 pm to
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So Chaisson and Key didn't play the run? Bama's OLB sure do tackle the ball carrier a lot


BAMA runs a 3-4 jackass. Sure they can tackle the ball carrier... BECAUSE THE 3 GUYS INSIDE ARE EATING UP BLOCKS. But their main goal is to rush the passer. how fricking stupid are you?

And I know Simmons didn't play edge you dunce. We are talking about Marcel Brooks though...
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
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Posted on 2/5/20 at 4:17 pm to
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In 3rd and long passing downs just like this year Marcel can absolutely line up at end.


I think Brooks is role gets confused from last year

It’s best described as this

Just pretend he really was a safety. Now, on 3rd & long, there he is, standing up on the end of the line. He was a blitzing safety.

They did everything they could for him to avoid OT contact. He either A) ran around the end or B) ran a stunt in attempt to get to QBs untouched

He was a safety that they used to blitz
Posted by SoFunnyItsNot
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 2/5/20 at 4:18 pm to
get a life man. you have 360,000 posts too many. it's quite honestly sad. do you have any friends in the real world? or are you a bubble boy or something?
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5944 posts
Posted on 2/5/20 at 4:23 pm to
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BAMA runs a 3-4 jackass. Sure they can tackle the ball carrier... BECAUSE THE 3 GUYS INSIDE ARE EATING UP BLOCKS.


Have you watched Bama this past 5 years?
They play a 1 gap scheme where the DL don't just eat up blocks. You think Q. Williams was sitting there eating up blocks?
Posted by SLafourche07
Member since Feb 2008
10044 posts
Posted on 2/5/20 at 4:29 pm to
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aranda is the best..never really seen alot of blown assignments or guys out of place in his defense.




What?


This defense was really solid all year EXCEPT for the big blown assignments and guys in the wrong gap.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 2/5/20 at 4:35 pm to
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but I can't say I am as much a fan of his schemes.



He was damn near 3rd and Chavis at times.

If a team had 3rd and 14 or 4th and 14, it worried me more than if it was 3rd or 4th and 3.

He gave up a lot of long plays on 3rd and 4th downs to the opposition.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
169058 posts
Posted on 2/5/20 at 4:39 pm to
Clemson went 1-11 on 3rd down in the national title game

LSU was top in the SEC and had the fifth best opponent conversion percentage in the country in 2019

Posted by LosTigres251
Plano
Member since Mar 2018
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Posted on 2/5/20 at 4:39 pm to
Seems to be coach talk to me. Giving others' things to think about.

I cant see LSu going to a straight 4-3 next year, which will really be a 4 2 5, the majority of the time.

I like the Pelini hire and I like the attacking defensive approach. Either way, 3-4 or 4-3, Pelini will have a ton of talent to work with and the Tiger D should be as dangerous as ever.



This post was edited on 2/5/20 at 4:58 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48059 posts
Posted on 2/5/20 at 4:49 pm to
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just to change it now. Say goodbye to players like Marcel Brooks and Divinity rushing the passer. They are far too small to rush the passer in a 4-3. 


Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48059 posts
Posted on 2/5/20 at 4:52 pm to
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He was damn near 3rd and Chavis at times. 

If a team had 3rd and 14 or 4th and 14, it worried me more than if it was 3rd or 4th and 3. 

He gave up a lot of long plays on 3rd and 4th downs to the opposition.


oh hey its that football ignorant dumbass that thinks his opinion outweighs facts....

Facts

Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
77855 posts
Posted on 2/5/20 at 4:53 pm to
What’s wrong with a 4-4 defense?
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 2/5/20 at 4:54 pm to
I love the hire.
Posted by LSUFAN2
Tennessee
Member since Jan 2011
2646 posts
Posted on 2/5/20 at 4:57 pm to
I take it that you didn’t watch the Ole Miss game this past season because there were players out of position several times.
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