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re: Coach Mainieri's comments after the game

Posted on 6/17/13 at 2:00 pm to
Posted by Holden Caulfield
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 2:00 pm to
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So you're saying if the count is 2-2 you would still bunt b/c the count is not a factor?

No, that is not what I'm saying. At 2-2 you may have to forgo your original plan to move the runner although I've seen coaches bunt with two strikes.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 2:02 pm to
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99.9% of managers at any level of baseball bunt the runner to second in that situation...
Never said they didn't. Just said the actual statistics don't support it
Posted by Weaver
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 2:03 pm to
Personally I don't know jack shite about baseball but there are times u go with the odds and bunt. Problem is we cannot or will not bunt when needed for all players. Ucla can bunt at any order in the lineup and that helped them last night.
Posted by bayoujd
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 2:03 pm to
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Those are the controlling factors at play


You omitted the most important factor - who is batting and is he an adequate bunter? Rhymes had not bunted once this year. Know your player's strengths. If a guy had never bunted once this year, not sure the CWS is the first time to make him do it. It would be like asking a center on the basketball team to take a 3 pointer at the end of the game. Sure, I bet he's practiced 3 pointers in practice, but would you play to his weakness or inexperience in a clutch, pressure-packed moment?
Posted by More beer please
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 2:04 pm to
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You omitted the most important factor - who is batting


nah i think we covered that, he tends to hit into dp's at inopportune times
Posted by Tigerbait357
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 2:05 pm to
Some of you people get so god damn worked up over comments on the internet from other strangers. Relax, I don't get why people need to keep dragging things on
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 2:05 pm to
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You omitted the most important factor - who is batting and is he an adequate bunter? Rhymes had not bunted once this year. Know your player's strengths. If a guy had never bunted once this year, not sure the CWS is the first time to make him do it. It would be like asking a center on the basketball team to take a 3 pointer at the end of the game. Sure, I bet he's practiced 3 pointers in practice, but would you play to his weakness or inexperience in a clutch, pressure-packed momen


I would. I know what he does in pressure packed situations when we let him swing away.

GIDP
Posted by Holden Caulfield
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 2:07 pm to
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You omitted the most important factor - who is batting and is he an adequate bunter?

That's a valid point. RR has not been called on to bunt much this year but that in and of itself doesn't mean he's not proficient at the task.

I'm basing it on CPM's decision to have RR at least show bunt on the previous two pitches. I would imagine Maineiri knows if RR is capable on putting down a bunt.
Posted by bayoujd
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 2:09 pm to
Yeah, I'm pretty worked up over this.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 2:10 pm to
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I'm basing it on CPM's decision to have RR at least show bunt on the previous two pitches. I would imagine Maineiri knows if RR is capable on putting down a bunt.


if CPM thought RR was incapable of putting down the bunt then why did he have it on for the first two pitches.
Posted by Holden Caulfield
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 2:12 pm to
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if CPM thought RR was incapable of putting down the bunt then why did he have it on for the first two pitches

That's what I said in my comment. We don't have much to go on with RR's bunting prowess but CPM would have some idea.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 2:15 pm to
Im guessing he can bunt. Because bunting ain't that fricking hard. That's why shitty hitters do it more often.
Posted by roscoe mike
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 2:16 pm to
The real irony in all this is if Ucla's closer would have been anywhere near the plate on the first two pitches, Raph gets the bunt down and we'd have a whole different outlook today.
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 2:18 pm to
well he better learn because he will be asked to bunt in the minors. Singles hitters don't swing away in those situations.
Posted by JustSmokin
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 2:20 pm to
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Because bunting ain't that fricking hard

After watching LSU attempt bunts the past few years, it has to be harder than it looks b/c we suck at it. I would love to know our % success on sac bunt attempts. That's not a stat available onlne.

One thing I would do is teach Stevenson to bunt for hits. He would have a better chance to get on base.

Posted by More beer please
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 2:20 pm to
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it has to be harder than it looks b/c we suck at it.


its not
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 2:21 pm to
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he tends to hit into dp's at inopportune times


he had 3 prior at bats. a lazy fly to cf and 2 taylor made dp grounders but luckily no one was on first.
Posted by JustSmokin
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 2:21 pm to
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its not

So we suck at it b/c of Javi?
Posted by More beer please
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 2:21 pm to
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2 taylor made dp grounders but luckily no one was on first.


but nooooooooo him hitting into that dp was an anomaly
Posted by Holden Caulfield
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 2:25 pm to
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Im guessing he can bunt. Because bunting ain't that fricking hard. That's why shitty hitters do it more often.

A lot of that depends on how much emphasis individual coaches put on the bunting game. Obviously its a large part of the UCLA offense.

Every hitter, 1-9, should be capable of putting down a bunt when called upon to do so. Outcomes of games could depend on that ability.
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