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re: Coach Mainieri's comments after the game

Posted on 6/17/13 at 1:39 pm to
Posted by Holden Caulfield
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 1:39 pm to
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You know absolutely nothing about baseball

So inform me genius, what changed to make a hit and run more desirable than bunting the runner to second. Give it your best shot dumbass.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 1:40 pm to
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No because that is almost 1/2 the amount of dp's raph has hit into. Again, why would CPM state he knew raph had that problem if it wasnt actually there? Its not a big surprise/crazy anomoly like a lot of yall are making it out to be
PM called a HIT & RUN!!! He addressed the issue with his call, but Raph did not execute properly. That happens in baseball, it doesn't always have to be someone's fault.
This post was edited on 6/17/13 at 1:41 pm
Posted by C
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 1:40 pm to
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How is Maineiri unaware UCLA's third baseman in on the line?


He never said he didn't. You think he's watching 9 players on every pitch? He didn't say "wow I was surprised the 3rd baseman was playing the line in that situation because I told ralph to hit the ball down the 3rd baseline." He just said he thinks the ball was hit hard down the line and that he thinks the 3rd baseman was playing on the line which enabled DP on a hit and run play. His hopes for a double down the line are just ways he wishes it woulda turned out differently.


I can't take this anymore. I'm out.
Posted by More beer please
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 1:41 pm to
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but Raph did not execute properly.


exactly its raph, regardless of the call that was "supposed" to cancel out the dp

and a hit and run doesnt make a dp possibility just disappear, he also said that too
This post was edited on 6/17/13 at 1:43 pm
Posted by Holden Caulfield
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 1:42 pm to
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You think he's watching 9 players on every pitch?

He damn well better be if he's making crucial decisions that turn a game.

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He didn't say "wow I was surprised the 3rd baseman was playing the line in that situation because I told ralph to hit the ball down the 3rd baseline.

Yea, he didn't say wow. Other than that he seem not to know if the man was on the line or not.
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 1:42 pm to
I think regardless of whether you think the H&R was good or he should have bunted...he should have taken another pitch there. It seemed like that old boy on the mound was rattled when Katz got the hit. It looked like he expected to come in and mow us down. Katz gets a hit and Rhymes comes to plate and gets 2 balls. Why not look at another pitch
This post was edited on 6/17/13 at 1:43 pm
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 1:43 pm to
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Raph did not execute properly


yep. you would think a senior would know how to execute a hit and run
Posted by LsuTool
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 1:43 pm to
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So inform me genius, what changed to make a hit and run more desirable than bunting the runner to second. Give it your best shot dumbass.


why ask him when PM spelled it out for you?
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 1:43 pm to
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Why not look at another pitch
I dont understand why people think this would have mattered. The pitch Raph hit was right down the middle so the guy threw a strike
Posted by C
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 1:45 pm to
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Why not look at another pitch


He was looking to get a runner to third and a big inning. 2-0 count is a big advantage for the hitter. I don't know if anyone has his season splits on 2-0 but I bet it's well over 400.
Posted by Old Money
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 1:45 pm to
Sounds like Les
Posted by MOT
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 1:45 pm to
Not agreeing or disagreeing with the decision, but at 2-0 after showing bunt twice he knew the next pitch was going to be the best pitch for Rhymes to handle and possibly the best one all inning.

At 2-1 after taking a strike he probably puts the bunt back on.
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 1:45 pm to
so he couldn't have thrown two more balls after going 2-1? most people make the pitcher work in that situation. RR is one of our best hitters surely he can work a count.
Posted by Holden Caulfield
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 1:45 pm to
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e should have taken another pitch there.

That's a great point. You don't usually take a strike if you know you're going to bunt but once CPM made his decision to take the bunt off then making the pitcher throw a strike first, in that situation, isn't a bad strategy.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 1:47 pm to
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inform me genius, what changed to make a hit and run more desirable than bunting the runner to second. Give it your best shot dumbass.

The count was 2-0. The guy had to throw a strike (which he did) and more than likely was going to throw a fastball (which he did). Why not give the best contact hitter on your team a chance to put a ball in play when there is a very good chance the pitcher will be delivering a fastball in the strike zone? It isn't like a double play happens very typically on a hit and run. Their second baseman made a very good turn to complete that double play. Do you understand now or do you need further clarification on how the situation changes as the count changes you stupid prick?
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 1:47 pm to
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The pitch Raph hit was right down the middle so the guy threw a strike


Somone earlier alluded to the fact that is was a good pitch on the outer edge tailing away from Rhymes which is what I thought I saw.

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I dont understand why people think this would have mattered.


You get to see another pitch with a man on 1st and 0 outs....hell maybe on 2-1 he gets the bunt sign back (if it was in fact a strike as you say). Although in general I'm in favor of this team doubling their patience level at the plate....although now I see threads where people want Jacoby to swing on a 3-0 count
Posted by roscoe mike
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 1:49 pm to
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I love our retard fans


I'm not doubting some of our fans are retarded...but the highest chance of scoring one run in that situation is bunting the runner to second with less than two outs. That's baseball 101. Anything else lessens the chance at scoring. We didn't need a big inning. We needed one damn run.
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 1:50 pm to
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Not agreeing or disagreeing with the decision, but at 2-0 after showing bunt twice he knew the next pitch was going to be the best pitch for Rhymes to handle and possibly the best one all inning.

At 2-1 after taking a strike he probably puts the bunt back on.


Meh....its all speculation and hindsight now....but I thought he should have looked at that pitch as soon as he swung.
This post was edited on 6/17/13 at 1:52 pm
Posted by Holden Caulfield
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 1:50 pm to
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The count was 2-0. The guy had to throw a strike (which he did) and more than likely was going to throw a fastball (which he did).

OK, so nothing changed other than the count and the "guy had to throw a strike".

Priceless
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 1:51 pm to
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He was looking to get a runner to third and a big inning.


Based on the progession of the game and how we had done up until that point I'm not sure that was the right strategy....although like I said earlier hindsight is always 20/20
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