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Coach Eddie Smith's 2020 Goals Update - Through 3 Weekends

Posted on 3/2/20 at 1:47 pm
Posted by 3rdPart Tiger
Member since Oct 2007
6200 posts
Posted on 3/2/20 at 1:47 pm
Eddie Smith's Plan for Increasing LSU Baseball's Offensive Production

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One sheet listed three goals: lead the Southeastern Conference in runs per game, on-base plus slugging percentage (OPS) and a defensive metric called plus/minus, which measures runs saved.


Let's see how we're doing.

Runs per Game: SEC Leader - Tennessee (10.4); LSU (4.8) Last in SEC

OPS: SEC Leader - Alabama (0.974); LSU (0.680) Last in SEC

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Smith has emphasized walks — he titled one piece of paper “VALUE THE WALK!!!” — and extra-base hits since he arrived at LSU.


Walks per Game: SEC Leader - UT (7.6); LSU (4.3) Tied for 13th

Ks per Game: SEC Leader - Auburn, Vandy, UK (6.5); LSU (8.2)

Hits per Game: SEC Leader - Auburn (11.5); LSU 7.2 Last in SEC

Strength of Schedule (per Boyd's World):
LSU 20
UK 35
Arkansas 39
Ole Miss 45
Missouri 55
Alabama 64
Florida 73
State 79
UGA 92
A&M 163
Vandy 169
USCe 173
UT 202
Auburn 207
This post was edited on 3/2/20 at 2:01 pm
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 3/2/20 at 1:49 pm to
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66463 posts
Posted on 3/2/20 at 1:53 pm to
Super useful early in the season.

We may as well pack it in with Tennessee scoring 10 runs a game.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28336 posts
Posted on 3/2/20 at 1:55 pm to
It's still very early in the season. Perhaps baby steps should be the goal vs. an overnight fix.

Step 1: Avoid looking like this at the plate



Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
5898 posts
Posted on 3/2/20 at 2:00 pm to
Yep. SABER guys always like to talk about their "process" but, in reality, all they have are stats that show a desired result (goals) if you do everything right.

And THIS is "cutting edge"? Good results come from talent, work ethic, and proper coaching on swing mechanics and pitch recognition. Who steps up to the plate and has time to think about his launch angle as he's got a split second to decide if he's getting a fastball, a slider, a curve, a changeup or a sinker, and THEN decide if he should swing or not?

Do these guys really think they are the first people to ever conclude that hitting the ball higher and harder may result in more power numbers? How does that help anyone make contact?
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
5898 posts
Posted on 3/2/20 at 2:05 pm to
quote:

Super useful early in the season.

We may as well pack it in with Tennessee scoring 10 runs a game.




Early in the season is not a valid excuse to be the opposite of everything you say your goals are. And there has been some weak competition that has utterly stifled this lineup.

It would be hard for LSU to continue to be this bad at the plate. But there isn't anything happening to inspire confidence that the offense can be competitive against top pitching. And that makes winning in the postseason a problem, if they can get there.
This post was edited on 3/2/20 at 2:07 pm
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11181 posts
Posted on 3/2/20 at 2:17 pm to
Rome wasn't built in a day. Let's see how the offense looks in 2 or 3 years.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66463 posts
Posted on 3/2/20 at 2:25 pm to
1. It’s a long way to go and the state pool is limited.

Tennessee scored 42 points in 2 games. That’s not normal and when you e only played 11 games that greatly effects your numbers.

Vice Versa if you have 2 really bad games, you’re getting dragged down too.

We have been really inconsistent, we could become consistently bad or consistently good.
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
5898 posts
Posted on 3/2/20 at 2:40 pm to
quote:

It’s a long way to go and the state pool is limited.



I already addressed this, when I said that being early in the season is not an excuse to be the opposite of all your goals. And the competition has often been weak.


quote:

Tennessee scored 42 points in 2 games. That’s not normal and when you e only played 11 games that greatly effects your numbers.

Vice Versa if you have 2 really bad games, you’re getting dragged down too.




There is an unlimited number of runs you can score in any given game. You can't score less than zero. A couple of bad games does not skew your numbers across 12 games, friend. And you only mentioned Tennessee, who leads the conference, for your argument. LSU isn't second in runs. They are last.

They may not finish last, but they don't show much potential to be good, offensively. I've been watching LSU baseball for over 20 years, and I've seen some "slow" starts. This is worse than slow, and is cause for legitimate questions.
This post was edited on 3/2/20 at 2:43 pm
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42505 posts
Posted on 3/2/20 at 2:42 pm to
Tulane lineup last year > than LSU lineup this year
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
5898 posts
Posted on 3/2/20 at 2:49 pm to
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Tulane lineup last year > than LSU lineup this year


So, what you're telling me is that good hitters make for good stats?

What a novel thought. Thank you for making my point. SABER metrics people always try to take credit for everything, and say "it all happened when we got him to change his launch angle and stop swinging at balls".

If it's that easy, what's the problem? Why should guys like Eddie Smith take all the credit, and then get none of the blame, when it doesn't work?

I argued over the course of an entire baseball season with a Braves fansite columnist, who loves sabermetrics, and tried to tell me that guys who made drastic, and sudden turnarounds, like Justin Turner, were the result of analytics. He gives no credence to Turner's hard work, and I vigorously argued this blind idea.

But when guys struggle, we're supposed to give it time? Where is the consistency in these arguments?
This post was edited on 3/2/20 at 2:55 pm
Posted by GoneFishing21
Member since May 2017
3327 posts
Posted on 3/2/20 at 2:56 pm to
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And you only mentioned Tennessee, who leads the conference, for your argument. LSU isn't second in runs. They are last.


Tennessee is almost last in SOS so far.
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
37359 posts
Posted on 3/2/20 at 2:57 pm to
Eddie needs to be updating his resume. We all know Paul won't do shite for him once they're all fired after this year.
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
5898 posts
Posted on 3/2/20 at 2:58 pm to
quote:

Tennessee is almost last in SOS so far.


And? LSU isn't trailing Tennessee. They trail the conference.
Posted by GoneFishing21
Member since May 2017
3327 posts
Posted on 3/2/20 at 3:00 pm to
And a reasonable argument can be made that LSU has not only faced tougher pitching so far, but also better hitting. We won’t know how teams compare until they start playing one another.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70226 posts
Posted on 3/2/20 at 3:02 pm to
quote:

Tennessee is almost last in SOS so far.


Tennessee did beat Texas Tech in the tourney they played in a couple weeks ago.

Our Indiana series is better than any of the regular series they played.

They did better in their tournament than we did in ours, but only played one team that was definitely better than the teams we played.

But they've also won every game they've played, and we've lost some games to the same level of teams they've played.

And they're doing it without their projected Friday night guy coming into the season. And another projected weekend guy they got from JUCO is redshirting due to Mono.
Posted by GoneFishing21
Member since May 2017
3327 posts
Posted on 3/2/20 at 3:10 pm to
Yeah I agree and was aware of the tournament they played in with good competition. Just trying to make the point that we will see how we compare to SEC teams once we start facing them.
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
5898 posts
Posted on 3/2/20 at 3:12 pm to
quote:

And a reasonable argument can be made that LSU has not only faced tougher pitching so far, but also better hitting. We won’t know how teams compare until they start playing one another.




But, again, we aren't merely comparing LSU to one team. They are dead last in offense. And our pitching is fine. It's got some holes in the bullpen, but even the 'pen has some horses. We're not talking about team-wide comparisons, we're talking about hitting.

Everyone here is smart enough to understand it's early enough for things to change, statistically. But this is about as bad as you can hit for a 12 game stretch, and the "real" schedule hasn't started yet. The lack of any kind of plate discipline is concerning.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70226 posts
Posted on 3/2/20 at 3:14 pm to
Oh yeah. Our pitching will keep us in pretty much every game. Even with the step up in competition, SEC teams still have flaws. Our flaws just seem magnified right now.

The guy that threw the no hitter against us could pitch for anyone in the SEC. I'm not saying that because he threw a no hitter against us. He's been a big time prospect for a while. He was highly thought of going into Rice his freshman year, transferred to San Jac (was drafted from there), and then went to Oklahoma instead of signing. He's really good. That's the type of guy we will be facing in the SEC.

Not the clown from Nicholls or the rag arm from Eastern Kentucky.

But we won't face all of them on their best day.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66463 posts
Posted on 3/2/20 at 3:48 pm to
It definitely does. A shut out in a data pool of 12 means a lot more than a shutout in a data pool of 56.

Obviously if things keep up at this rate it’s a fricking terrible season, but there are 44 games left. These numbers could all easily significantly change.
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