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re: Coach Eddie Smith's 2020 Goals Update - Through 3 Weekends

Posted on 3/2/20 at 4:06 pm to
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 3/2/20 at 4:06 pm to
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It definitely does. A shut out in a data pool of 12 means a lot more than a shutout in a data pool of 56.

Obviously if things keep up at this rate it’s a fricking terrible season, but there are 44 games left. These numbers could all easily significantly change.




Dude, this is baseball. It's not like scoring 72 points in a 7 overtime game, and getting shutout in another. In baseball, the needle doesn't move very much, even over a short period of games, unless you have an offensive explosion, early, like Tennessee. Most teams this early, are not playing great competition, and ARE having some big games. That should be expected. LSU plays Nichols and scores 2. They get shutout by Eastern Kentucky and barely sniffed any hits in the second game against them.

An average team's third starter throws a no hitter. The fact that LSU has already been shutout twice, in only 12 games, is far more concerning than if it had happened over an entire season, imo.
This post was edited on 3/2/20 at 4:10 pm
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
6155 posts
Posted on 3/2/20 at 4:10 pm to
and they have the best recruiting HC in the country who should be Woody's first call after PM is gone
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
73700 posts
Posted on 3/2/20 at 4:19 pm to
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Rome wasn't built in a day. Let's see how the offense looks in 2 or 3 years.




This is college, not the professional level.

You are constantly dealing with attrition. You need to compete as if every year is your true opportunity, because it is.

Freshmen and young guys are very capable of having early success at this level.. especially in this sport.


Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 3/2/20 at 4:48 pm to
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Dude, this is baseball. It's not like scoring 72 points in a 7 overtime game, and getting shutout in another. In baseball, the needle doesn't move very much, even over a short period of games


You clearly don’t understand how statistics work

The reason the needle doesn’t move much is because there are so many games.

A 10 run game doesn’t move the needle when it’s one of 56. It moves it a lot when it’s one of 5.

36 AB mean a lot more when they’re 10% of your at bats vs 2%.
This post was edited on 3/2/20 at 4:58 pm
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
6907 posts
Posted on 3/2/20 at 6:01 pm to
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You clearly don’t understand how statistics work

The reason the needle doesn’t move much is because there are so many games.

A 10 run game doesn’t move the needle when it’s one of 56. It moves it a lot when it’s one of 5.

36 AB mean a lot more when they’re 10% of your at bats vs 2%.


I understand perfectly how stats work. I used to keep stats before the internet gave them to me on the ready. LSU hasn't had wild swings of production to skew their stats. And in baseball, you usually don't get much of that. Individual stats can be skewed much more easily than team stats, after 12 games.

I know that there is plenty of time for this team, in theory, to improve at the plate. But 12 games is a big enough sample size, with the consistency of struggles this offense has had, to say that there is a problem.

You're acting as if it's been two games, and we got shut out in one. It's been a constant struggle, and the competition is about to go way up. I've watched more than enough baseball in my life to recognize the difference between a slump, and lack of pitch recognition. And that's going to take more work than just having "goals". We have a hitting "coach" who relies on stats that show results, rather than the process to get there.

Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79410 posts
Posted on 3/2/20 at 6:11 pm to
Keeping stats an interpreting stats are completely different fricking things.

If you’re gonna pretend that 1 game dropping our team batting average 17 points isn’t statistically significant go ahead, but that’s a pretty big dip.

Outside 2 shutouts were averaging 5.8 runs a game which isn’t terribly.

Like I said, it’s a small sample size. If those two games are flukes we should be ok. If they aren’t than yeah we’re in for a long season.

Our issue isn’t that we’re consistentl bad.

We’ve scored 6 or more runs in half our games.

The problem is that we’re not inconsistent and don’t how us some games.

This post was edited on 3/2/20 at 6:16 pm
Posted by Pintail
Member since Nov 2011
12061 posts
Posted on 3/2/20 at 7:17 pm to
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The lack of any kind of plate discipline is concerning.


Plate discipline has been nonexistent for a while under Mainieri. It is nauseating.
This post was edited on 3/2/20 at 7:18 pm
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
6907 posts
Posted on 3/2/20 at 7:42 pm to
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Keeping stats an interpreting stats are completely different fricking things.

If you’re gonna pretend that 1 game dropping our team batting average 17 points isn’t statistically significant go ahead, but that’s a pretty big dip.

Outside 2 shutouts were averaging 5.8 runs a game which isn’t terribly.

Like I said, it’s a small sample size. If those two games are flukes we should be ok. If they aren’t than yeah we’re in for a long season.

Our issue isn’t that we’re consistentl bad.

We’ve scored 6 or more runs in half our games.

The problem is that we’re not inconsistent and don’t how us some games.



When you keep stats, you develop a keen eye for trends.

5.8 runs per game in college is not very impressive. Taking into account the less than stellar competition, overall, makes it even worse. And then add the two shut outs (which count, regardless of your excuses) and you have terrible numbers.

You are the one who is misinterpreting stats. In the Indiana series, and against Louisiana Tech, LSU benefited from a lot of bad defense. They scored 6 runs in game two of the EKU series, with 6 hits. When you play crappy teams, you get help. But the lack of hitting, walks, and timely hitting tells the story.

If it makes you feel better to make excuses to explain it away, you do you. But don't try to put that over me. I can see with my own eyes what's happening at the plate. And Eddie Smith needs to earn his paycheck and start doing something other than show them charts.
This post was edited on 3/2/20 at 7:44 pm
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