re: Coach Aranda - Speaking of Coach Orgeron

The 2011 defense was the best I have ever seen in college football.
And Chief was the DC.

Players can make a avg. DC look great
just like a great QB can make an Avg. OC look great.

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Have you actually ever played the game of football? I don't mean touch football in the backyard or in P.E. class, I mean, real football. The gritty, head-knocking, bloody, bruising, gut-wrenching kind of football? Because if you had you'd know and understand just how ignorant the statement you just made is.

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I love statements that start like these. I'm sure I never played at the highest levels of the sport like a gridiron gladiator like yourself has, but I played a mean game of badminton back in the day

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If Aranda leaves, it's simple, next coach up!!! There's too much talent in the state of Louisiana for any coach to not succeed at LSU.

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What a ridiculous statement. Has LSU ever not had top level play? Is there talent in the state of Florida, Texas, California? Why aren't those teams playing top flight football every single year then?

Since you are such a football legend from your playing days, did coaches never help to guide or inspire you to reach the mythical heights you achieved?

Why do Hall of Famers list their coaches going all the way back to pee wee leagues? Why was LSU's defense so much better in 2016 than it was in 2015 with basically the same group of players?


Sure, there are coaches that could do as well or maybe even better than Aranda is doing. But not EVERY coach could. You have to identify the right coach that is the right fit. O didn't do that with his first OC hire, why should we simply assume he will with his first DC hire?


Anyone that thinks this train will simply continue chugging along after Aranda, and many of these same players you insist are the REAL reason for the success, must have played too much "gritty head knocking" football like yourself and may need to be evaluated for CTE

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If you want to be negative about something, at least have a clue what you are talking about.

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I'm waiting for the badminton thread to show my expertise

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Why don’t you just come out and “admit” that no matter what Orgeron does it’ll never be good enough.

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If LSU wins a national championship with Orgeron and Aranda, O will absolutely deserve credit for it, and I'll celebrate it. That doesn't mean he'll be able to do it again without Aranda. That's why I said until he successfully replaces Aranda, which he will 100% have to do at some point in the very near future, I will still have my doubts he is the LONG TERM solution this program needs.

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All he’s done so far is win against heavily favored opponents.

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Is that ALL he's done as coach of LSU? No losses in games which he was heavily favored to win? Do these three weeks erase all past performances when evaluating his tenure?

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LSU could go undefeated through the Alabama game and negative O haters will keep moving the goal posts back.

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You mean like Miles did in 2015, three weeks before he was actively being ousted?

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You’ll never give O his due credit. Cowards

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I'll give him his credit, as well as the marks against him.

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No. Les Miles hired Aranda.

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O was part of keeping him here when A&M came calling

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I refuse to believe you saw anyone calling to fire Aranda

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I'm not going to dig back through all those tScoreboard threads to link it, but it was there. A lot. And I was shocked.

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Don't believe you.

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Why don’t you just come out and “admit” that no matter what Orgeron does it’ll never be good enough.

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Les Miles won a NC here and look how much he got shite on.

And you're angry because people aren't ready to suck off O after going 3-0? Miles did that most years.

One thing normal everyday people hate is being under-utilized. Put that into a competitive sport, and it's 1000 times worse.

Orgeron utilizes Aranda to the maximum; the part that makes it such a great relationship is that he utilizes him by both letting him run his business and listening to him.

I was worried there would be bias of the "old school" coaches, including Orgeron, vs the younger innovative Aranda. Aranda had to deal with some of that (Alavarez mainly) at Wisc.

The opposite is true.

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Les Miles was the one that identified Aranda and brought him to LSU

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He also hired Meleveto, Steele, Chavis, Peveto twice and a string of great OCs after Jimbo got tired of his BS.

That's interesting because Miles first interviewed Aranda in 2014 but passed him over to hire Kevin Steele. It wasn't until Steele left after 1 year that Miles called Aranda back in 2015.