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re: Cliff Notes of Segment on Chris Landry's Podcast Discussing "the Meeting"

Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:42 am to
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:42 am to
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We're supposed to feel sorry for the guy that conned his way into a job he is grossly unqualified for and for which he's guaranteed to be paid at least $12 million? Nah, frick that.


This. Also, Orgeron has made it clear he feels he deserves the job. He gets no sympathy from me.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
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Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:42 am to
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I think most people know that we won despite O. At least I hope so

I wouldn't be so sure. There are plenty of people who think we're "right on track".
This post was edited on 10/11/17 at 10:52 am
Posted by 1999
Where I be
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Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:43 am to
"I earned the job, whether you like it or not"
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
38963 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:43 am to
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It is very likely both Aranda and Canada are gone after this season, then two new coordinators will be in charge.

This is the thing im not sure about. Granted, it could end up a total shite show by years end, but theyre making a shite load of money.
Posted by Smalls
Southern California
Member since Jul 2009
10288 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:45 am to
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If this type of new CEO paradigm worked, every organization in the world would already be using it.


Have you worked in corporate America? Half the CEOs in the Fortune 500 can't even tie their shoes.
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
87962 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:47 am to
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Offense's success is predicated on making defenses defend the jet sweep preventing them from teeing off on QB in the pocket or overloading the front against the inside run.



DUH! i have said this for years! especially after watching CUM and malzahn use this to beat bama. maybe clemson on a smaller scale. but we have football naive fans here who never got it and maybe never will.

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He wanted to have the ability to put his two cents in. It's his toy.


WHAT.THE.frick. i wish miles had given control to OC's to run a complete less predicable offense that used whole field however the AD especially alleva should stay out.


Posted by 1999
Where I be
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Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:49 am to
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I think most people know that we won despite O


no i think a lot of people are pretty energized from the win last week.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:52 am to
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This is the thing im not sure about. Granted, it could end up a total shite show by years end, but theyre making a shite load of money.


I suspect they would leave on their own vs. being fired by LSU. Aranda and Canada were "in demand" before LSU. I suspect other HC's will be more than happy to overlook any "regression" this season and just attribute it to LSU's HC being a cartoon character and LSU's administration being a bunch of amateurs
Posted by pelicanpride
Houston
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:55 am to
The only way Alleva meddling makes sense to me is if Canada went to him personally and complained that O wouldn't let him run his offense unfettered (as promised when he accepted the job). Alleva may have felt compelled to get involved in that situation. I've seen that sort of thing happen in my career. People sometimes go to their boss' boss if they feel like their boss is not acting appropriately. It is the nuclear option, though.
Posted by Abe1961
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:56 am to
Only good thing is aleast Alleva had enough sense to tell O to quit screwing with the team or they will all be gone next year!
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50310 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:57 am to
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The only way Alleva meddling makes sense to me is if Canada went to him personally and complained that O wouldn't let him run his offense unfettered (as promised when he accepted the job). Alleva may have felt compelled to get involved in that situation. I've seen that sort of thing happen in my career. People sometimes go to their boss' boss if they feel like their boss is not acting appropriately. It is the nuclear option, though.


Not necessarily. It was stated that Alleva has been watching film with the coaches. It could be that he just picked up on the issues while Orgeron and Canada were having a "disagreement" about the offense.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:57 am to
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I suspect they would leave on their own vs. being fired by LSU. Aranda and Canada were "in demand" before LSU. I suspect other HC's will be more than happy to overlook any "regression" this season and just attribute it to LSU's HC being a cartoon character and LSU's administration being a bunch of amateurs


They may find it challenging to leave this year without help from LSU. Unless Canada and Aranda are getting promoted to head coach of a major program, their buyouts are going to be prohibitive for them to make a jump. That's one of the second order consequences of this model. We're stuck with them. You can't fire them if you are O because we sunk a ton of money into them. So unless they get promoted or LSU waives the buyout, they are ours for better or worse.
Posted by Abe1961
Member since Oct 2014
2413 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:58 am to
Don’t think anyone had to go to Alleva. We lost to Troy. Don’t need to be a rocket scientist to see something is wrong.
Posted by tiogatiger19
tioga, la
Member since Aug 2005
1513 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 11:02 am to
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Not running Canada's offense cost LSU the Troy game IN LANDRY'S OPINION. He does not believe Orgeron will meddle in offense again. 


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Concern going forward is will Orgeron meddle the next time something is not working well. 


Huh? One of these doesnt belong, we all know which one.
Posted by klrstix
Shreveport, LA
Member since Oct 2006
3490 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 11:03 am to
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Don’t need to be a rocket scientist to see something is wrong.




While this is true I am of the opinion (and that is all it is... ) that there is influencers (as in major donors to the athletic program) that has Alleva's ear and it is entirely possible they are the instigators of said meeting...

Posted by nvcowboyfan
James Turner Street, Birmingham,UK
Member since Nov 2007
2987 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 11:03 am to
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I didn't think I could hate Alleva more than I already do... but I was wrong


MFing this!!!
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
23225 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 11:07 am to
So only 4 people in a room: Alleva, O, Canada, Aranda....


Yet Chris fricking Landry has all the details of the meeting......

The rant is so fricking dumb.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
53662 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 11:08 am to
If Alleva wants to coach so bad, I would make him forego the rest of his salary and he can go start out as a GA making that money and work his way up the coaching staff
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33854 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 11:11 am to
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I think there were 3 camps. Camp 1 - against the hire and after the hire continued to scream to the mountain tops how bad it is. Camp 2 - Were all in and was excited about the reign of O. Camp - 3 not in favor of the hire, but once it was done was willing to support it in hopes that the sum of the parts was enough for success.


Normally I would've been in group 3. That's just the way I generally approach these types of things.

But the choice of coach in this particular case was too questionable and there were too many red flags everywhere with him. I didn't think we had to wait to form a reasonable judgement on his coaching skills. Coaching is hard enough when you've proven to be good at your job. We didn't need to stack the deck against ourselves.
Posted by Zchlsu
Twin Peaks, Washington
Member since Jan 2011
7365 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 11:13 am to
[img]Joe Alleva has taken to watching film with Orgeron on Sunday's. [/img]

Laughing and crying at the same time.
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