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bencoleman
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re: Clemson’s o-line vs LSU’s o-line
Anyone that claims the offense wouldn't improve drastically with two prototypical tackles isn't living in reality.


Rickdaddy4188
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re: Clemson’s o-line vs LSU’s o-line
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This is so stupid. Every team excluding Clemson is next year u. That includes Bama.


Well this is crazy. Making the playoff is an amazing season and wouldnt be considered next year U.winning the sec isnt considered next year u. Winning the west isnt considered next year u.


OppositeMan
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re: Clemson’s o-line vs LSU’s o-line
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I'm pretty sure that Dare and Wire started 2018 as defensive players. I wouldn't count them towards the offensive total.


Dare was originally an OT in HS but moved to DL and saw his stock drop. He was recruited at DL but moved to OL several months ago.

Wire is basically the exact same as Parker in this year's class. He played mostly TE in HS, moved toward OL at the end, and we took him as an OL last class.

Development will be huge for both of them...they both have a lot of potential at OT.
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OppositeMan
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RB10


I agree with you, and your list shows me a LOT of missed evals at OT, and potentially a lot of underdevelopment.

Guys like Dare, Wire, and now Parker will be huge developmental tests from our staff...and they need to come through.


bencoleman
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Guys like Dare, Wire, and now Parker will be huge developmental tests from our staff...and they need to come through


If those guys get on the field along with a improved running game the offense could actually be pretty damn good.



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WaWaWeeWa
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You just proved my earlier point for me.


No I didn’t.

I proved that we are getting top Tackle talent that the rest of the country wants too.

Deculus was a top 10 OT that has a ridiculous offer sheet including Alabama.

The fact that these guys are not producing here doesn’t mean that they lack talent.... Just like the fact Giles had 1,000 yards at Tech doesn’t prove that he has talent (we obviously learned that)

You are a talent denier


WaWaWeeWa
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Anyone that claims the offense wouldn't improve drastically with two prototypical tackles isn't living in reality.


What is a “prototypical tackle”. Not a troll, I just want to know what your criteria are.

Then tell me why, on paper, Badore and Deculus dont fit that? They were highly ranked tackles coming out of high school that were highly sought after.


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RB10
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Deculus was a top 10 OT that has a ridiculous offer sheet including Alabama.


Deculus was supposed to be the solution to half of LSU's tackle problem. Then Traore was supposed to be the solution to the other half.

Neither working out has been a kick in the nuts.


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Rickdaddy4188
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re: Clemson’s o-line vs LSU’s o-line
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The fact that these guys are not producing here doesn’t mean that they lack talent.... Just like the fact Giles had 1,000 yards at Tech doesn’t prove that he has talent (we obviously learned that) 

You are a talent denier


Of course he is. If he admits we have talent then he will have to lay some blame on the coaches. I keep asking him ," if talent is the issue why did team like Southeastern shut down our offense? " and ive yet to get a response.


La Place Mike
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Making the playoff is an amazing season and wouldnt be considered next year U.winning the sec isnt considered next year u. Winning the west isnt considered next year u.


You obviously don't read the Rant. Besides my point still stands.


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WaWaWeeWa
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Exactly. He won’t answer it honestly. He is dug in to his position so much that he is denying that in general recruiting rankings are pretty accurate.

It’s not difficult to understand. You can’t look at one player and count on rankings, but you can look at a group of players and be a lot more accurate. And if you average our rankings with the other teams we are talking about it’s VERY close.

Why is the product on the field so much different?


bencoleman
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The fact that these guys are not producing here doesn’t mean that they lack talent.... Just like the fact Giles had 1,000 yards at Tech doesn’t prove that he has talent (we obviously learned that



So you want it both ways. The one that produced at a P5 school doesn't have talent but the other 2 obviously do. If Traore is so great why is a converted guard starting over him? Maybe you should Google what qualities a good tackle at this level needs.


bencoleman
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Exactly. He won’t answer it honestly. He is dug in to his position so much that he is denying that in general recruiting rankings are pretty accurate


I'm saying that there not the be all to end all that you seem to think.


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Rickdaddy4188
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You obviously don't read the Rant. Besides my point still stands.

No one would shite on a west title.


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WaWaWeeWa
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So you want it both ways. The one that produced at a P5 school doesn't have talent but the other 2 obviously do. If Traore is so great why is a converted guard starting over him? Maybe you should Google what qualities a good tackle at this level needs.


Do you have a learning disability? I’m serious

What I’m saying is... how a player performs at a particular college doesn’t always indicate how much raw talent they have. Lots of players can look good in a system and with certain coaching. Especially olineman.

The only objective measure of talent COMING INTO COLLEGE (that’s what we are debating) is recruiting rankings. Unless you have some measure that we don’t know about.


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Mayhawman
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re: Clemson’s o-line vs LSU’s o-line
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I agree with you, and your list shows me a LOT of missed evals at OT, and potentially a lot of underdevelopment.
This happens more often than not in CFB and often athletic Gs are developed then moved to OT. C position can be the same due to intellect requirement.


WaWaWeeWa
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If Traore is so great why is a converted guard starting over him? Maybe you should Google what qualities a good tackle at this level needs.


I’m not saying he’s great. He may or he may not have the potential to be a great player. I’m simply saying we don’t lack the ability to bring in highly ranked players.

Players which are recruited by other elite teams and have very high rankings from people who solely review talent as their profession. But we should trust you? Why?


bencoleman
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Players which are recruited by other elite teams and have very high rankings from people who solely review talent as their profession. But we should trust you? Why


You're trying to make this an argument that doesn't have to happen. You're trying to back me into a position that I don't agree with plus you're making up a position that you think I'm taking in order to argue. Schools whiff on players all the time. Sometimes players don't work out for one reason or another. I thought David Ducre would be 1st round talent. The same with the Davenport kid. I thought he was can't miss. All I can think of is you just want to argue.


BayouBengal99
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re: Clemson’s o-line vs LSU’s o-line
And Clemson has been running the same type of offense for years at that schools with different variations. The offensive players in that system know the offense front and back. The coaches at Clemson has had time to figure out what works and what doesn't work within their offense as well. They have confidence in what works and what doesn't.

That all has a significant impact on a teams ability to execute the plays called. LSU is in its first year of changing everything within the offense and we went 10-3. Give our offense the same time that Clemson has had and you will see the same type of execution. How did Clemson perform last year with the same coaches but different players who couldn't execute that offense in the same way they can this year? It wasn't close to the level it is this year.

Every year y'all want to change the offense or something within it. That hurts the team. Our coaches have shown that when the offense is clicking and the players are executing, that it can be a powerful offense. Look at the GA game and the UCF game. It's inconsistent because it's all new with new players. Give it time people.


bencoleman
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I’m not saying he’s great. He may or he may not have the potential to be a great player. I’m simply saying we don’t lack the ability to bring in highly ranked players.

Players which are recruited by other elite teams and have very high rankings from people who solely review talent as their profession. But we should trust you? Why



I never said that LSU lacks the ability to bring in talent. LSU is sitting on the number 4 class and it's probably climbing higher. 2020 looks to be epic as well. At this point you are arguing for the sake of argument.


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