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Posted on 1/11/19 at 7:17 am to WaWaWeeWa
It’s it the stars it’s the type
Posted on 1/11/19 at 7:20 am to WaWaWeeWa
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’s pretty simple. Y’all are just in denial
So what you're going to believe is what somebody that rates talent which is hugely hit or miss or your eyes?
LSU had a huge problem concerning depth and talent. If you can't see that you're in denial.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 7:26 am to CP3LSU25
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OL is the hardest position to predict in recruiting. Do your homework
Did I say anything about this?
We draw from the same talent pool as Clemson. It’s a statistical FACT. you are living in denial.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 7:29 am to mhc4tigers
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For several,years Miles did not recruit offensive tackles. So we might very well have a 4 star recruit playing the left tackle or right tackle position. But they were not an4 star as a tackle.
so not having prototypical Tackle talent is why our oline looks like shite against teams like Southeastern? Do you think Southeastern has prototypical players at every position? It’s scheme not talent. Our olineman would be just fine in Clemson’s system.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 7:29 am to WaWaWeeWa
The difference is easy to see
Posted on 1/11/19 at 7:32 am to WaWaWeeWa
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Do you think Southeastern has prototypical players at every position
Did you not see that big defensive end abuse Deculus all game long. One play as he ran past Deculus who was still in his stance he slapped Deculus on the arse as he went after Burrow.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 7:33 am to bencoleman
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So what you're going to believe is what somebody that rates talent which is hugely hit or miss or your eyes?
Hugely hit or miss? Really
You are showing your arse Ben
I mean maybe you can cherry pick some misses, but why don’t you show me a better method mr. talent guru.
It’s not a perfect system, but it’s far better than your eyes or any other system you know of and that has been proven time and time again with facts.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 7:35 am to FightinTiga
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The difference is easy to see
The product on the field? Yea I agree
But that doesn’t say anything about the level of talent coming onto campus.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 7:38 am to bencoleman
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Did you not see that big defensive end abuse Deculus all game long.
So one above average defensive lineman on an otherwise shite team is why our entire offense looks like dog shite against Southeastern?
And if we just had one guy that could block him we would be scoring like Clemson?
Do you honestly believe this?
Posted on 1/11/19 at 7:43 am to WaWaWeeWa
We have been through several OL coaches and our line still struggles against Bama. To me, that says we don’t have the right talent at certain positions
Posted on 1/11/19 at 7:45 am to WaWaWeeWa
I’m getting back into this thread really late.
It’s not solely a talent deficiency, a scheme issue, or lack of development/coaching. It’s a combination of all three.
One could argue with the raw athleticism LSU recruits development/coaching and scheme are bigger issues than talent deficiency, but to deny all three have significant impacts on the underwhelming performance is agenda driven.
With that being said, I think the reasons are the following and I’m placing them in order if impact:
Scheme
Player development/coaching
Evaluation and identification of proper position
Talent
It’s not solely a talent deficiency, a scheme issue, or lack of development/coaching. It’s a combination of all three.
One could argue with the raw athleticism LSU recruits development/coaching and scheme are bigger issues than talent deficiency, but to deny all three have significant impacts on the underwhelming performance is agenda driven.
With that being said, I think the reasons are the following and I’m placing them in order if impact:
Scheme
Player development/coaching
Evaluation and identification of proper position
Talent
This post was edited on 1/11/19 at 7:46 am
Posted on 1/11/19 at 7:49 am to Oilfieldbiology
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With that being said, I think the reasons are the following andim placing them in order if impact:
Scheme
Player development/coaching
Evaluation and identification of proper position
Talent
I’ll agree with that
I’m not saying we couldnt do better in recruiting. I’m simply saying there are plenty of teams who have comparable or lesser offensive line talent that are performing much better than we are.
The idiots in here who deny that are trying to discredit recruiting rankings. It’s serious mental gymnastics for sure
This post was edited on 1/11/19 at 7:53 am
Posted on 1/11/19 at 7:53 am to WaWaWeeWa
People want a single smoking gun, single reason, single deficiency. That way it’s easy to fix. Truth is, fixing something wrong with a team is difficult
Posted on 1/11/19 at 7:57 am to WaWaWeeWa
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Did I say anything about this?
We draw from the same talent pool as Clemson. It’s a statistical FACT. you are living in denial.
Dude, give up...it's too hard for our coaches...and not too hard for Clemson's coaches.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 7:57 am to WaWaWeeWa
Clemson recruits better than us. You are in denial. Our OL sucks
Posted on 1/11/19 at 8:02 am to Oilfieldbiology
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People want a single smoking gun, single reason, single deficiency. That way it’s easy to fix. Truth is, fixing something wrong with a team is difficult
While I do agree with you, in general, I think it is pretty clear that LSU's biggest deficiency is finding legit SEC OT's, and I don't think the fix for this is quite the mountain that it's being made out to be.
If we could get better OT play, without fixing any other issues, we'd likely have 2 more W's in 2018.
However hard or challenging this stuff is, we should always be striving to be better and fix our problems, regardless. It would've been great to take a couple of true, bad-arse OT's in this cycle and then develop them in full.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 8:06 am to OppositeMan
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However hard or challenging this stuff is, we should always be striving to be better and fix our problems, regardless.
I honest to God think this is the best comment I’ve ever read in the rant. Be happy. Enjoy the wins. Enjoy the season. Celebrate the accomplishments. And strive to improve at every position, at every task, every day.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 8:20 am to CP3LSU25
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Clemson recruits better than us.
Link?
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