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re: Clemson’s o-line vs LSU’s o-line
Posted on 1/11/19 at 2:24 pm to WaWaWeeWa
Posted on 1/11/19 at 2:24 pm to WaWaWeeWa
quote:
The offense struggled with a stud tackle in 2013-2015. The offense is currently run by Les’s TE coach.
No I don’t think a stud left tackle this year would have made our offense look like Clemson’s
If you do you should check into the nearest nut house for an evaluation.
Our posts don't match up. I pointed out that we haven't had a stud tackle on the roster for nearly 4 seasons, and you responded by telling me that our offense wouldn't look like Clemson's if we had a stud tackle on the roster. Then you insinuated that I might be crazy if I disagree with you.
WTF are you even talking about right now? Do we need stud tackles or not? What's your point?
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 2:24 pm to WaWaWeeWa
Key stat:
Clemson has a 5 star qb who will make you pay when you blitz and They have a scheme that that sets a qb up for success when under pressure.
Clemson has a 5 star qb who will make you pay when you blitz and They have a scheme that that sets a qb up for success when under pressure.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 2:25 pm to OppositeMan
quote:
Things Les was infamous for:
- Poor clock management
- Being too conservative
- Playing guards at tackle
- Meddling in the offense
- being vague and quirky in responses to public and media
Things Ed O should be infamous for:
- Poor timeout and play review management
- Being too conservative
- Playing guards at tackle
- Meddling in the offense
- flat out bullshating and excuse making to fans and media
Fify
Posted on 1/11/19 at 2:27 pm to TrevRollings29
quote:
TrevRollings29
Agree...we could probably keep adding stuff.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 2:32 pm to OppositeMan
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Our posts don't match up. I pointed out that we haven't had a stud tackle on the roster for nearly 4 seasons
Yea and I’m saying it didn’t make a difference when we did have a stud tackle.
The whole point is it’s not a lack of talent at a single position on the offensive line like bencoleman wants you to believe. It’s scheme and coaching mostly.
When Les was here the problem was always coaching. All of a sudden once O got here to “continue the status quo” the talking point became we don’t have enough talent on the oline to compete with Alabama. We need more time. It’s horse shite.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 2:34 pm to WaWaWeeWa
quote:
You are right. You actually don’t even have an argument. An argument requires evidence and logic.
Let’s just call it word vomit
You should know you made every bit of it up. Nobody is insulting you in this thread but you continually put words in people's mouths and twist their arguments to mean something that they never meant. You insult people and you don't make a lot of sense. I guess that you're trying to turn this into an name calling contest. I don't know why you can't just have a conversation about improving LSU'S offense.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 2:41 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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Yea and I’m saying it didn’t make a difference when we did have a stud tackle
So wait a second. When did LSU have a stud tackle? I must've missed that this season.
You are literally arguing that better players won't help the team. Yet you are downing other posters and talking about their arguments don't hold up.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 2:43 pm to bencoleman
Fair enough. I’ll chill with the insults. But this is going nowhere. You refuse to provide any objective evidence, and you ignore most of the evidence presented.
Obviously there is probably a level of talent that could overcome our coaching shortcomings. That would be a special group of guys. But to say we don’t have similar offensive line talent as other schools with effective passing games is just a joke and you know it.
Agree to disagree
Obviously there is probably a level of talent that could overcome our coaching shortcomings. That would be a special group of guys. But to say we don’t have similar offensive line talent as other schools with effective passing games is just a joke and you know it.
Agree to disagree
Posted on 1/11/19 at 2:45 pm to bencoleman
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So wait a second. When did LSU have a stud tackle? I must've missed that this season.
Go re read the post I responded to. I think you need to read things a little slower.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 2:53 pm to WaWaWeeWa
quote:
Fair enough. I’ll chill with the insults. But this is going nowhere. You refuse to provide any objective evidence, and you ignore most of the evidence presented
This is simply not true.
quote:
Obviously there is probably a level of talent that could overcome our coaching shortcomings
That's not what you've been saying.
quote:
. But to say we don’t have similar offensive line talent as other schools with effective passing games is just a joke and you know it
I never said that LSU didn't. LSU is recruiting well and I've mentioned it in this thread. I'm talking about two players in particular that are highly rated but not producing at this level. The proof is in Traore's case is he played so badly that he was benched. He's not even in the two deep of an already depleted line up. The guy that's starting is a converted guard. If you don't believe that I don't know what to tell you. Deculus has been getting abused all year that's documented on video. If you don't believe that I don't know what to tell you. The good news is most of these guys are young and have room to improve. More good news is Dare is pretty athletic. Watch his highlight video. They used him all over the field. We're also hearing good things about Wire. He's supposed to be athletic too. It'll all come out in the wash. I believe which is my opinion that the offense will be 100% better this season
Posted on 1/11/19 at 2:53 pm to BayouBengal99
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That all has a significant impact on a teams ability to execute the plays called. LSU is in its first year of changing everything within the offense and we went 10-3. G
By choice.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 2:55 pm to WaWaWeeWa
quote:
Yea and I’m saying it didn’t make a difference when we did have a stud tackle.
The whole point is it’s not a lack of talent at a single position on the offensive line like bencoleman wants you to believe. It’s scheme and coaching mostly.
When Les was here the problem was always coaching. All of a sudden once O got here to “continue the status quo” the talking point became we don’t have enough talent on the oline to compete with Alabama. We need more time. It’s horse shite.
Dude, I know it's coaching...I've been complaining about O and company the whole thread.
At the same time, it would obviously be very helpful to have better and true tackle recruits.
Just because our coaches suck doesn't mean it's meaningless to get better players.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 2:56 pm to WaWaWeeWa
quote:
Go re read the post I responded to. I think you need to read things a little slower
You act like Les never had good offenses. He had several good offenses. He fell off at the end because he was in a pissing match with Alleva and thought he couldn't be touched. He thought wrong.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 2:57 pm to WaWaWeeWa
quote:
WaWaWeeWa
You've been pretty spot on with Ben.
Anytime a poster dissects his post, he responds with "misrepresenting him, twisting his words, etc"
either he can't articulate his point or doesn't know what the he's talking about!
Bencoleman
"there is NO talent on this OL, please name the talent" Damn, so no player has talent?
"Couple guys in the wrong position" so are they in the wrong position or have no talent?
"OL could be special next year" so they all of a sudden became talented?
This post was edited on 1/11/19 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 1/11/19 at 2:57 pm to bencoleman
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Les was famous for this.
Regurgitated bullshite rant myth because our good tackles were nfl guards like the vast majority of cfb tackles. We had good tackles almost every year under miles.
Faulk
Lael collins
Ciron black
Big herm
Barksdale
Turner
Just because a tackles in cfb is moved to guard in the nfl in no way means miles was turning guards into tackles.
Having an nfl tackle on your cfb team is a rarity.
This post was edited on 1/11/19 at 3:01 pm
Posted on 1/11/19 at 2:59 pm to bencoleman
quote:
He fell off at the end
He fell to win loss level youre touting while having a vastly superior offense.
This post was edited on 1/11/19 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 1/11/19 at 3:06 pm to bstew3006
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You've been pretty spot on with Ben.
Good to know I’m not going crazy. I’m done with him. His nonsense is exhausting.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 3:08 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Having an nfl tackle on your cfb team is a rarity.
That’s the truth. Especially a “prototypical tackle”.
Plenty of teams scored on Bama this year without a NFL tackle.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 3:15 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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Good to know I’m not going crazy. I’m done with him. His nonsense is exhausting
Good idea. You've been getting your arse handed to you in this thread. I wouldn't want to continue it either if I was you.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 3:17 pm to bencoleman
Meanwhile, nick saban's oc is now a head coach, qb coach is OC at miami, co oc is new OC at Michigan and we have a head coach and an oc that couldn't even get interviewed for those jobs if they wanted them. Thanks Joe...
Our problem is not the OL
Our problem is not the OL
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