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re: CJJ Knew .... How is LSU's pitching lining up....
Posted on 6/5/23 at 11:24 am to OceanMan
Posted on 6/5/23 at 11:24 am to OceanMan
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Instead of staying in denial, use this moment to understand that you may have been wrong, and that at the very least,
you and the others are the kind of people that have been doing something wrong for 30 years and fortunate you haven't killed yourself and shout "I've been doing it this way for 30 years" when someone tells you you are doing it wrong to justify you are doing it the right way...
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Well for starters, the last time skip won a championship, the Regional format was quite different. Can we just stop there.
the format changed in 1999 and Skips last title was 2000...
2
Posted on 6/5/23 at 11:24 am to MorbidTheClown
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remember that double play skenes turned?
Left a Mark
Jesus. Hope that thing heals fast.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 11:26 am to ell_13
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Speaking of hyperbole. 2 is not “several”
Sorry, it’s been over 20 years. Devastating impact on my argument
Posted on 6/5/23 at 11:26 am to lsufan31
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There’s not been any criticism of his decision, except for on this forum.
You couldn’t be more wrong.
Every, single Baton Rouge media person, and every single former LSU player that has a podcast that focuses on LSU baseball all have said “I don’t agree with starting Skenes against SELU”. None of them are calling for Jay to be fired. But to say that TD is the only place questioning the move is just not accurate at all.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 11:28 am to OceanMan
quote:The people starting threads are the ones saying anyone who disagreed with Jay was wrong. And that not the case. That’s also still a hypothetical. There’s no reason to think we lose both games if the starters were reversed.
None of them are still worried about it. It’s not about disagreeing, it’s pretty clear it’s about being right, and at this point those that disagreed were not right. But they are doubling down even today.
quote:That works both ways though. Even for the “I told you so crowd”. If anything, they’re the ones being unreasonable at this point. Everyone who said it was wrong for Skenes to start game one still thought we were likely to win the regional. The problem was the analytical difference in the likelihood of the wins. And again, we will never know how things could have gone. Only that they have worked out so far… and I just said most of us said they still would.
For those you disagree with, your position is now only hypothetically defensible and frankly irrelevant.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 11:30 am to LSURulzSEC
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the format changed in 1999 and Skips last title was 2000...
Yep. Skip coached 3 four team regionals and won them all.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 11:37 am to LSURulzSEC
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you and the others are the kind of people that have been doing something wrong for 30 years and fortunate you haven't killed yourself and shout "I've been doing it this way for 30 years" when someone tells you you are doing it wrong to justify you are doing it the right way...
I mean it’s the opposite. It’s about being open to numerous approaches to the same desired result. Particularly after you see a new method play out favorably
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the format changed in 1999 and Skips last title was 2000...
Yeah that’s true. But yeah I’m still standing by my argument that it was a long time ago.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 11:48 am to ell_13
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Even for the “I told you so crowd”. If anything, they’re the ones being unreasonable at this point. Everyone who said it was wrong for Skenes to start game one still thought we were likely to win the regional.
We could look at the in game threads and prove this to be false.
Look, my position revolves around the chicken little bullshite that plagues our fan base. It’s obnoxious, unproductive and takes some fun out of it. I was at a birthday party with my kids when the game resumed and planned on just following TD threads to finish the game since I had to get them to bed, but people were literally still bitching about Skenes not pitching so I decided to spend $10 to avoid the nonsense.
I don’t disagree with any reasonable criticism, in fact I think it was warranted and it is not the decision I would have made. I don’t think people trying to rub it in is productive, because I don’t think there is any linear way to make lineup decisions. But damn there are some miserable arse fans out there, and it has sapped a lot of interest from people like me that have spend thousands of hours and dollars following LSU sports in their lives.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 11:48 am to Choupique19
Like I said, there’s been an awful lot of “opinions”. If he saved Skenes it would have been the same thing. Johnson is never going to make 100% of people agree with every decision he makes. But people on this forum think their opinions matter, and they don’t.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 11:51 am to Choupique19
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Yep. Skip coached 3 four team regionals and won them all.
Ok I’m done, y’all win. I liked LSU baseball a lot when he was the coach too.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 11:52 am to OceanMan
I mean… if you’re going to use specific details to support your case, at least make sure they’re accurate.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 12:07 pm to lsufan31
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But people on this forum think their opinions matter, and they don’t.
I fully admit that my opinion does not matter. We like to talk ball here. Believe it or not, sometimes I read things on here that change my opinion on a subject. We are fans, and we discuss our team. Coaches get questioned, coaches get praised. But all coaches love that people care enough about their program to discuss it.
If no one is talking about your program, you won’t be around long.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 12:07 pm to Choupique19
Cooper getting the start today.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 12:15 pm to Choupique19
The funniest part about all of this is that we ALL wanted to start Skenes Saturday. It's like the most important detail that we all could find common ground on became a baby footnote while we were looking for scalps.
Just win baby...and be glad this topic has become purely academic.
Just win baby...and be glad this topic has become purely academic.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 12:24 pm to ell_13
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There’s no reason to believe that we lose both games if the starters were reversed
We will never know. What we do know is that we are needing one win to advance with the way the coaching staff decided to go. We also know that Paul got in a complete game for us Friday, which probably would not have happened, given the weather conditions, if he started game 2.
It’s amusing that some LSU baseball fans want to develop some type of controversy out of being 2-0. There may be lots of ways for coaches to make mistakes, but being 2-0 in a regional isn’t one of them.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 12:26 pm to Choupique19
It’s still stupid to sit around and bash the coach of a team you supposedly support.
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