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CJJ Knew .... How is LSU's pitching lining up....

Posted on 6/5/23 at 6:27 am
Posted by BayouTiga
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 6:27 am
There is roughly 99.9% of critical information that goes into coaching decisions that the rant and anyone else has no information about.......

Nuff Said......
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 6:29 am to
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There is roughly 99.9% of critical information that goes into coaching decisions that the rant and anyone else has no information about.......


Why don’t you let us in on the secret info brother?

Is Jay a meteorologist too?
This post was edited on 6/5/23 at 6:29 am
Posted by BayouTiga
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 6:31 am to
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Why don’t you let us in on the secret info brother?



Monday morning sarcasm, excited about today's lineup! You need to be in the coach's room to make the kind of criticism that comes from this forum.....Enjoy the game!

Posted by GeauxLSU4
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 6:34 am to
Speaking of today’s lineup, I wonder what he’ll do with Dugas and if he’ll move Morgan out of the three hole.
Posted by BayouTiga
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 6:37 am to
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Speaking of today’s lineup, I wonder what he’ll do with Dugas and if he’ll move Morgan out of the three hole.


Good point, will be curious to see.....

Posted by LSURulzSEC
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 6:45 am to
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CJJ Knew


No he didn't...you and everyone else that went along with JJs decision to throw Skenes in the first game is using hindsight of the weather to justify the decision.

If JJ was really using the probablity of bad weather for going with Skenes the first game he would have said so and avoided the shite storm that came with his decision and after what had happened in South Carolina earlier in the season everyone would have gone along with it and then could understand it, but that is not what happened...
Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 6:48 am to
Watching Hurd pitch great last night against the second best hitting team in this tournament (behind us) makes it likely he would have mowed down SELU even more.

The rain/lightning is the only reason pitching Skenes on Friday looks better.

We all have weather apps, we all follow on social media the same local meteorologists that Jay reaches out to for forecasts. The local meteorologists were wrong, they predicted minimal rain this weekend.
This post was edited on 6/5/23 at 6:51 am
Posted by kciDAtaE
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 6:54 am to
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avoided the shite storm that came with his decision


Haha. A bunch of idiots on a message board bitching about a win is not a shitstorm
Posted by Classy Doge
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 7:05 am to
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The local meteorologists were wrong, they predicted minimal rain this weekend


There was minimal rain at the Box this weekend. We had 2 small showers that each day lasted about 10 or 20 minutes. It was the lightning in the surrounding areas like Walker, Zachary, Prairieville and Addis along with the NCAA's piss poor management that delayed this regional so much.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 7:06 am to
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If JJ was really using the probablity of bad weather for going with Skenes the first game he would have said so and avoided the shite storm that came with his decision


I’m sure JJ gives two stroke of shite about the “shite storm” that came from his leading this team.

I can see it now in the coaches meetings:

“Hey coach we need to work on this line-up”

JJ - “just a minute I need to see what they are saying on the rant and in the press. That’s way more important than preparing for a key game”.

If you don’t think people from the team are watching the forecast and factoring in the probabilities of stoppages into a game plan I’m not sure there is help for you.
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 7:09 am to
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If you don’t think people from the team are watching the forecast and factoring in the probabilities of stoppages into a game plan I’m not sure there is help for you.
Even the highest probability of rain forecasted would not have predicted what happened Saturday.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 7:16 am to
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Even the highest probability of rain forecasted would not have predicted what happened Saturday.


Predicted no. Made the odds higher of a stoppage Saturday higher than Friday? Yes.

Again, the discussion was probably “how do we set it up and get the most out of the staff based on season to date - all factors considered.

If this system had come in on say Wednesday and Friday was “iffy” with Saturday morning clearing out to Saturday afternoon the decision may have been different or may not have. It’s absolutely a factor. Again “a” factor, not “the” factor or even necessarily a major factor.
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 7:18 am to
Literally no one, not even Jay after the game, mentioned weather as a factor because it wasn’t at the time. He talked only how how their study of Tulane made them think this would be the best course. We don’t have to pretend it’s something different to justify something he has already told us how he justified it.
Posted by OceanMan
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 7:24 am to
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No he didn't...you and everyone else that went along with JJs decision to throw Skenes in the first game is using hindsight of the weather to justify the decision.


No, you and everyone else that is melting like a bitch is using hindsight to come up with some hypothetical alternative than what actually happened.

Throwing Skenes Friday was always going to provide the most predictable outcome. That’s why he did it, and the guys yesterday threw really well.

You don’t need to be a meteorologist to know it rains in Baton Rouge this time of year.

Instead of staying in denial, use this moment to understand that you may have been wrong, and that at the very least, Coach Johnson’s decision had merit. Because at the end of the day, we are in about as good a position pitching moving forward in this tournament as we could ask for.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 7:26 am to
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If you don’t think people from the team are watching the forecast and factoring in the probabilities of stoppages into a game plan I’m not sure there is help for you.



You think he pitched Skenes on Friday because he was worried about rain on Saturday? Is that what you are saying?
Posted by Penrod
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 7:30 am to
I think CJJ wanted to line his staff up for the Supers. If this regional was the end of the playoffs the smart play would have been to hold Skenes.

In retrospect, and knowning what the weather would do, the smart play was rolling with Skenes against Tulane.

I think CJJ also was feeling very confidant in a Floyd/Hurd pitched game.
This post was edited on 6/5/23 at 7:31 am
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 7:32 am to
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use this moment to understand that you may have been wrong
You think anyone on tRant would come anywhere close to admitting they could have been wrong? Lol. They’ll go to their grave still bitching. shite, some of their tombstones will read, “I was right… we shouldn’t have pitched Skenes…”
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 7:36 am to
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Again, the discussion was probably “how do we set it up and get the most out of the staff based on season to date - all factors considered.



That's why you save Skenes for Sat.

To go 2-0, Johnson had to use his top 3 pitchers...his only top notch arms. That's exactly what we were trying to avoid heading into this regional...because everyone knows what we have behind those 3.

What's a realistic prediction for how many runs we give up today? 9? 10?

LSU's pitching is toast. The only question is whether OSU's pitching is more toast. Hang on to your butts.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 7:36 am to
It’s no different than using Skenes throwing 9 innings and 124 pitches and a delay in game 2 as claiming they were right.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 7:40 am to
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Throwing Skenes Friday was always going to provide the most predictable outcome.


Most predictable outcome? Is that what we should be shooting for?

2 questions. Do you think Hurd could have handled Tulane? Do you think Hurd pitching on Friday would have put LSU in a stronger position?
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