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re: Christina Pike execution isn't the first failed execution in TN this year
Posted on 10/1/26 at 12:35 pm to FearTheFish
Posted on 10/1/26 at 12:35 pm to FearTheFish
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No one is consciously thinking, "man, I really shouldn't perform this heinous crime or they might kill me!"
I do! I think about the penalty I would pay for killing someone, and that is why I'm not a killer today. Believe me, there are many folks I killed in my mind!
So, yes, your take on it is simply bullshite!
Posted on 10/1/26 at 12:40 pm to Ben Rumson
She wasn’t tortured she was asleep and who gives a shite either way. Karma is a bitch. Roll her back when she’s stable. Third times the charm.
Posted on 10/1/26 at 12:50 pm to IamNotaRobot
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She wasn’t tortured she was asleep and who gives a shite either way. Karma is a bitch. Roll her back when she’s stable. Third times the charm.
I do. There's about 160,000 murderers sitting in prison right now and only 2,200 are on death row.
We don't even know readily how many murderers got light sentences and have already been released from prison and are free to walk around free men.
Tennessee had their shot with their 18 year old murderer. They shouldn't get another one. Just commute it to life if there is anything left of her to commute.
This post was edited on 10/1/26 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 10/1/26 at 1:01 pm to Ben Rumson
Welp, sucks to be them. Maybe tell them to try not killing someone in cold blood and they won’t ever have to worry about how many times the state will need to execute them.
Posted on 10/1/26 at 1:22 pm to Gee Grenouille
Tennessee should be ashamed of itself. Lindsay Clancy could have gotten the job done in 5 minutes with a simple exercise band.
Posted on 10/1/26 at 1:27 pm to AwgustaDawg
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If you’re looking for a case where exculpatory evidence was withheld by the prosecution and the defense was too dumb to ask for it
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For a capital conviction go with Alvarez in Texas.
That one took about 20 seconds to find.
You found two possible "technical" violations of procedure.
I was talking about cases where an innocent person is convicted of murder.
This Alvarez case, not trying to be critical, but that's just a stupid case to bring up to try to disprove my statement that innocent people are not being convicted of murder and sent to death row.
This guy was guilty as shite.
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The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit has affirmed the denial of federal habeas relief for Juan Carlos Alvarez, a Texas death row man who argued that ineffective legal representation
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According to the Fifth Circuit, Alvarez was charged in 1998 with capital murder for his participation in two separate shootings.
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The court further detailed that in the second incident, both witness testimony and forensic evidence linked Alvarez to the murders. Court records state that witnesses told police they observed Alvarez loading firearms, leaving his residence with the weapons and later returning with blood on his clothing.
The appellate court noted that forensic testing determined some of the blood found on a recovered shotgun at Alvarez’s home matched one of the victims. In a statement to police, Alvarez admitted he drove to the scene with his weapons and acknowledged that gang members planned to murder someone that day.
Eye witness testimony, murder weapons traced to being his, blood on his gun came from one of the victims, and sounds like he basically confessed.
That's your 20 second google search to prove me wrong?
Maybe you should try searching for 25.
This post was edited on 10/1/26 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 10/1/26 at 2:19 pm to Ben Rumson
Another thing to consider is that for the victim's family, a sentence of life in prison gives them finality quicker. Being on death row, dragging it out for 20 years, just drags out the nightmare for them until there is finality. Waiting for the other shoe to drop versus immediate knowledge they're going to prison never to see freedom again.
Hell, if I had life in prison, a 6x9 alone for 23 out of 24 hours a day, I'd prefer it if you just kill me. End it now, my life is over anyway. The death penalty is actually letting the murderer off easy.
Hell, if I had life in prison, a 6x9 alone for 23 out of 24 hours a day, I'd prefer it if you just kill me. End it now, my life is over anyway. The death penalty is actually letting the murderer off easy.
Posted on 10/1/26 at 2:23 pm to Gee Grenouille
They need to make executions PPV. Send the condemned down to South Africa, dress them in a seal,suit, rub them down with seal blubber and troll them behind a boat until the Great Whites do their thing…
Makes Shark Week even more appealing!
Makes Shark Week even more appealing!
Posted on 10/1/26 at 2:29 pm to Lutcher Lad
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I do! I think about the penalty I would pay for killing someone, and that is why I'm not a killer today. Believe me, there are many folks I killed in my mind!
What is the minimum threshold someone would have to meet to make you want to murder them? I need to know if you're a psychopath or not.
Posted on 10/1/26 at 2:54 pm to SoDakHawk
That’s not the case though. LWOP inmates are housed in general population. They socialize with others, play cards, watch TV, have jobs, get degrees ect. Some even get married and have conjugal visits. After they’re institutionalized they just live their best life in another world.
Posted on 10/1/26 at 3:18 pm to FearTheFish
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I know I'll get downvoted, but there is little evidence that suggests capital punishment serves as a deterrent to crime.
Pickpocketing was a capitol offense in 18th century Britain. It didn't deter pickpockets from working the crowds at public hangings. If you want to advocate for the death penalty on the basis of retribution, that's a plausible argument. But the case for deterrence is pretty weak.
There are people whose crimes are so heinous it's easy to say they need killing. OTOH most of the world has moved on from it. We're in pretty bad company with the likes of Iran and Saudi Arabia. It's arbitrarily applied-a good enough lawyer might not get you acquitted but probably will help you avoid the death penalty.
And the kicker-it's very likely at least a few, and maybe more than a few, innocent people have been executed. If you don't trust the government to spend your taxes wisely, how can you trust it with the power of life and death?
I note that Burl Cain, who knows more about the death penalty than most, is against it.
Posted on 10/1/26 at 3:43 pm to Jim Rockford
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If you don't trust the government to spend your taxes wisely, how can you trust it with the power of life and death?
in fairness, the government doesn't make that decision. A jury does
Posted on 10/1/26 at 4:33 pm to IamNotaRobot
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general population
can mean getting unwanted
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conjugal visits
from other inmates.
Posted on 10/1/26 at 4:39 pm to Ben Rumson
and as I said to you before - why the frick should the tax payers pay for her incarceration. they have already done so for 30 years too long. she should have been summarily executed years ago. she tortured, murdered and paraded around with a "trophy" of her kill and bragged about it/ then tried to kill another inmate.
by her own actions she deserves to be killed. any other murderer that has irrefutable evidence that they did it, and it was as sadistic and premeditated as this one, deserves to die as well - no quarter given.
if she did what she did to your sister, mother, wife, GF - best friend, whatever - you cannot sit on these forums and admit that you would be ok if she was still alive, just in jail. she is existing, when another is not - by her hand.
by her own actions she deserves to be killed. any other murderer that has irrefutable evidence that they did it, and it was as sadistic and premeditated as this one, deserves to die as well - no quarter given.
if she did what she did to your sister, mother, wife, GF - best friend, whatever - you cannot sit on these forums and admit that you would be ok if she was still alive, just in jail. she is existing, when another is not - by her hand.
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