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re: Chris Faulk's decision.

Posted on 4/26/13 at 10:33 pm to
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 10:33 pm to
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There is no guarantee he would have been drafted any higher if he came back, you are just speculating. 2 days ago people were talking about Jesse Williams going in the first, he's still on the board as well.



There is absolutely a guarantee with another good year he would go much higher than after sitting out an entire season with injury with question marks everywhere (only 1 season playing in career). Now if he got injured, then probably not, but he's in that spot anyways right now. He could have only improved his stock coming back.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 10:33 pm to
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He could have had his stock SKYROCKET after a great year at LT next season.


Could being the key word. If he was guaranteed to have a big year at LSU and go int the first, then he should have no problem making an NFL roster now.

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Now he will have to fight very hard to make a roster and earn a crappy contract (in comparison to a 1st/2nd rounder).


That "crappy" contract will still earn him 7 figures and he gets paid an extra year and will be closer to his 2nd contract.
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 10:34 pm to
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and if he injures his knee again and goes undrafted? Too much of a risk



Once again, at this point he's going to fight for a roster spot anyways where he will be drafted and if he gets injured again in the NFL like some of you claim he could in college (Which is dumb to assume freak injuries AGAIN) he would just be on IR and cut with basically zero money made.
Posted by Sterling Archer
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 10:35 pm to
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ACL isn't a death sentence anymore


Tell that do derrick rose
Posted by graychef
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 10:35 pm to
Maybe he just didn't want to return to school? Would rather take a chance at the professional level and rehab his injury instead of enrolling in classes?
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 10:35 pm to
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That "crappy" contract will still earn him 7 figures and he gets paid an extra year and will be closer to his 2nd contract.



He is not guaranteed 7 figures or even close to that at this point. He is in fighting for a roster spot range and "we will cut you loose quickly if you dont perform" draft slots.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 10:36 pm to
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Tell that do derrick rose



ACL is the knee, not the heart.


BOOM!
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 10:36 pm to
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Maybe he just didn't want to return to school? Would rather take a chance at the professional level and rehab his injury instead of enrolling in classes?



If he doesnt like school he doesnt like school. But it's still costing him potentially millions of guaranteed money.
Posted by graychef
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 10:38 pm to
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But it's still costing him potentially millions of guaranteed money.


I wouldn't be able to guarantee any substantial increase in draft position if he returned.
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 10:39 pm to
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I wouldn't be able to guarantee any substantial increase in draft position if he returned.



If he had a year like 2011 yes, it's guaranteed millions. He was a 1st round guy after that year going into this last season.
Posted by graychef
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 10:40 pm to
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2011

2012 = major injury
2013 = unknown

The unknown is what's driving his decision apparently.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 10:42 pm to
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But it's still costing him potentially millions of guaranteed money.


do you hear what you are saying? Potentially is the key word. He was not guaranteed anything if he comes back. Even if he didn't get hurt again, there is not guarantee he goes before the forth round next year.
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 10:42 pm to
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2012 = major injury
2013 = unknown

The unknown is what's driving his decision apparently.


Yes this much is obvious, and what I'm sayingis he's watching A LOT of big potential watching money slip away with that unknown driving his decision. At this point it wasn't a good decision to come out. He could have only improved himself by coming back.
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 10:43 pm to
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do you hear what you are saying? Potentially is the key word. He was not guaranteed anything if he comes back. Even if he didn't get hurt again, there is not guarantee he goes before the forth round next year.



4th round isn't guaranteed by any means for him either. My point is the potential to rise your stock from late rounds >>>>>>>> making the decision to go pro in the late rounds. Always should come back if you can raise your stock.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 10:43 pm to
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He was a 1st round guy after that year going into this last season.

we don't know this

i've seen many LSU OTs projected as "1st round OTs" by LSU fans who didn't get drafted close to that
Posted by graychef
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 10:44 pm to
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potential

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unknown

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could have


Lots of speculation that his stock would only go up. If he feels like it would not have gone up, he goes now. Get in the league, get back into playing shape and play ball.
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 10:46 pm to
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we don't know this



That's where projections had him at. My statement was correct.


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i've seen many LSU OTs projected as "1st round OTs" by LSU fans who didn't get drafted close to that



Ciron knees ultimately were his downfall if this is what you are referring too.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 10:47 pm to
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The "but what if got injured again" is the worst argument ever. He's already going to have to fight for a NFL roster spot at this point and if he gets injured as some say he could in college next season, in the NFL they would just place him on IR and then cut him. Career over anyways. How many times do players get severe injuries twice too? It's an ACL tear, not exactly something that TENDS to happen multiple times and is a common injury players come back from now. He would have made a lot more GUARANTEED money coming back for another year.


He could very well get injured in the NFL but he'd at least get a couple hundred thousand if on the roster as a backup or even 3rd string. League minimum is like $375, 000 a yr and he would never get close to that five years down the road coming out of school at a regular job. It's actually better that he plays on the OL because the league really needs depth at that position considering how fast and often the big men go down. A young tackle, he has nothing to worry about unless they need him immediately.

Now for the other side of that. If he tears another acl or the same acl I can promise you he won't be the same. Big men tearing an acl twice could end their career before it starts. Let him get to a team with a strong LT, RT and be depth while collecting checks. might go 3 years with 10 starts and end his contract having made a mill before taxes. I'd rather take that chance than come back and risk ending my career (this is a lineman we're talking about here)
Posted by Billder
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 10:47 pm to
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Chris Faulk's decision.quote:That "crappy" contract will still earn him 7 figures and he gets paid an extra year and will be closer to his 2nd contract. He is not guaranteed 7 figures or even close to that at this point. He is in fighting for a roster spot range and "we will cut you loose quickly if you dont perform" draft slots.


This....Personally, he might have made a good decsion.

Professionally he made a bad decision. He is going to end up with a contract with no significant guaranteed money. Coming off a severe injury and jumping in a tackle heavy draft.......he should have come back and proven he could play at a high level again.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59158 posts
Posted on 4/26/13 at 10:47 pm to
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th round isn't guaranteed by any means for him either. My point is the potential to rise your stock from late rounds >>>>>>>> making the decision to go pro in the late rounds. Always should come back if you can raise your stock.


Again, why do you assume another year in college raises his stock? If he can raise his stock from another year in college, then he can just as easily make an NFL roster and raise his earning potential that way. It makes no sense to say if he comes back he boosts his draft stock, but if he is drafted late he will struggle to make a team.
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