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re: Check in here if you're ok with swinging there 2-0

Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:45 pm to
Posted by catholictigerfan
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Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:45 pm to
I'm done arguing this crap

lets just beat UNC and come out of the losers braket and win this crap
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:45 pm to
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our three best hitters are as follows Bregs Katz Rhymes no question about it. CPM is a guy who trusts his good hitters (to say rhymes is not a good hitter is beyond stupid) to produce when he calls on them, he didn't, that's baseball. this would be like in football you have a third and short big part of the game and you play fake it and the guy is overthrown or something. Everyone is pissed and says why didn't you run it up the middle and blaming the coaching, but it was a good call but a huge risk. This wasn't a great call but it wasn't a no doubter like some of you think






2 words for you DOUBLE PLAY
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:46 pm to
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The game was on the line. Rhimes was 0 for 3. 2-0 count. Runner on first. You take a pitch or you bunt. The one thing you can't do is hit into a double play. Period.


This.

It's pretty simple really. Rhymes is a contact hitter who puts the ball on the ground more often than not (and hits into an insane amount of DP's) so he should never be swinging there. I think Maineri got a little caught up in the moment and tried to let Raph be the hero rather than doing the smart thing.
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:46 pm to
CPM himself has said it I trust my good hitters to produce when I call on them. Rhymes is a good hitter that is why CPM did what he did.

do you think CPM said swing at anything you see 2-0?

no he probably gave him the swing away signal rhymes saw a good pitch and swung away.
Posted by acgeaux129
We are BR
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:47 pm to
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making a decision on a sample size of three at-bats seems like a great idea.


Yeah, he was certainly implying that we should forget the rest of season of Rhymes' ABs with that post.
Posted by purplepylon
NOLA & Laffy
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:47 pm to
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this would be like in football you have a third and short big part of the game and you play fake it and the guy is overthrown or something. Everyone is pissed and says why didn't you run it up the middle and blaming the coaching, but it was a good call but a huge risk.


Analogy would equate if you changed it to 4th down.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:48 pm to
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making a decision on a sample size of three at-bats seems like a great idea. look if you are for bunting that is fine, i think it was a close call. but if it is because he was 0-3 on the game, give me a break.



Has a lot to do with it. If Rhymes is 3-3 at that point, swinging away seems more likely. Baseball is a huge game of confidence. Still, you absolutely have to put that runner in scoring position.

The worst thing that could possibly happen, happened. You have to eliminate that risk, and you have to move the guy to second.
Posted by The Seaward
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:49 pm to
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Yeah, he was certainly implying that we should forget the rest of season of Rhymes' ABs with that post.


considering that is all he mentioned for his reasoning, that is what i assumed his main logic was.

he certainly didn't mention him leading the ncaa in hitting last year, or his .400+ OBP.
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:49 pm to
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Has a lot to do with it. If Rhymes is 3-3 at that point, swinging away seems more likely. Baseball is a huge game of confidence. Still, you absolutely have to put that runner in scoring position. The worst thing that could possibly happen, happened. You have to eliminate that risk, and you have to move the guy to second.





Bingo another winner...
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:50 pm to
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considering that is all he mentioned for his reasoning, that is what i assumed his main logic was.

he certainly didn't mention him leading the ncaa in hitting last year, or his .400+ OBP.


Watched Rhymes hit into at least three DP's one game this year.

Bunt. No one will blame you. It's what any other coach would have done.
Posted by Broham
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:51 pm to
It's easy to fricking try and make the call now. I think it was the right call. 2-0 count with a good hitter and you send the runner, it just didn't work out. Errors lost the game, PERIOD
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
16110 posts
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:51 pm to
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The worst thing that could possibly happen, happened. You have to eliminate that risk, and you have to move the guy to second.


I agree RR is one of our best hitters. But down by 1 in the bottom of the 9th, you play for 1. Therefore, I agree with the above statement.
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
24392 posts
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:52 pm to
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It's easy to fricking try and make the call now. I think it was the right call. 2-0 count with a good hitter and you send the runner, it just didn't work out. Errors lost the game, PERIOD






Double play. Ballgame over have a nice day
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:52 pm to
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I agree RR is one of our best hitters. But down by 1 in the bottom of the 9th, you play for 1.


Bottom line, yes. Tie the game.
Posted by acgeaux129
We are BR
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:52 pm to
Regardless, players have visibly off nights, so your comment about sample sizes is ridiculous.

But referencing last year is beyond idiotic. Rhymes is a contact, line drive/ground ball hitter that can maybe slap an oppo double down the line. He used to be incredibly disciplined at the plate, but has struggled in that area a lot this year. Using 2012 as evidence or the fact that he bats 4-5 is just asinine.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:54 pm to
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CPM himself has said it I trust my good hitters to produce when I call on them. Rhymes is a good hitter that is why CPM did what he did.


Trusting your good hitters over the prudent thing to do sometimes will cost you..
Posted by acgeaux129
We are BR
Member since Sep 2007
15011 posts
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:54 pm to
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It's easy to fricking try and make the call now.


Incorrect. I know I was expecting bunt/take at least until 2 strikes. Even then, I would have still probably tried to bunt due to Rhymes' affinity for double plays.
Posted by The Seaward
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2006
11532 posts
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:55 pm to
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Regardless, players have visibly off nights, so your comment about sample sizes is ridiculous.

But referencing last year is beyond idiotic. Rhymes is a contact, line drive/ground ball hitter that can maybe slap an oppo double down the line. He used to be incredibly disciplined at the plate, but has struggled in that area a lot this year. Using 2012 as evidence or the fact that he bats 4-5 is just asinine.


lol

using a whole year of production is crazy, but saying he is 0-3 and having an "off-night" makes sense.
Posted by 5Alive
With Your Moms
Member since Jul 2009
7877 posts
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:55 pm to
So what you think hes gonna drop a bomb right there? We would have had two chances to get a single there. The way the game was going honestly you really thought we should swing away on a guy that was struggling? If you do I would love to meet you for a beer and explain this game that I have played from 3 all the way to 22 in college.
Posted by Broham
Member since Feb 2005
19185 posts
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:55 pm to
STFU pussy
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