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re: Check in here if you're ok with swinging there 2-0

Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:37 pm to
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:37 pm to
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Throwing away an out is exactly what's happening. If you only want to score 1 run in an inning than I can understand, but I want more than that in an inning


Considering we had 1 run on a homer the whole game, I would've been good with 1 to tie it in the 9th. Though the run still wasn't guaranteed to come around even with a great bunt. But you basically just ask for one hit out of the infield with two chances to do it.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:37 pm to
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How many times have you seen a fielder screw up a ground ball in the infield? UCLA took the lead on just such a play.


Bunting was pretty safe. Hitting away was a larger risk. The biggest risk, double play which is exactly what happened.

Posted by 5Alive
With Your Moms
Member since Jul 2009
7877 posts
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:37 pm to
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Check in here if you're ok with swinging there 2-0 quote: A man on second is almost guaranteed a run especially in that field. so ridiculous. you hindsight posters are a joke.


You do know a single drives the man in from second right that's why it's called scoring position. Eat a dick stupid frickers
Posted by hhstigerdad
St. Charles Parish
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:38 pm to
No idiot here. Been playing baseball before you were a gleam in you old man's eye! FUNDAMENTALS HAVE NOT CHANGED!
Posted by The Seaward
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2006
11532 posts
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:39 pm to
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You do know a single drives the man in from second right that's why it's called scoring position. Eat a dick stupid frickers


likely, but how was a single guaranteed?

you are probably not the best to argue with though if that silly name calling is the best you can do.
Posted by acgeaux129
We are BR
Member since Sep 2007
15011 posts
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:40 pm to
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you should trust one of the best hitters in your lineup to produce in any situation he had an unlucky bounce cost the game.



Not really. Why do y'all get off on ignoring numbers? He has a chance of getting on base less than half the time (40% at best). Honestly, I have no way of reasonably finding out, but I would surmise that Rhymes is slightly more likely to hit into a DP than advance the runner with a guy on first and <= 1 out.

The fact is that sabermetrics tell us that bunting doesn't pay off in the long run. This wasn't the long run. It's not a west coast small ball philosophy that we would be taking on as the team's style and identity. No one is remotely suggesting that. Rather, the situation calls for playing for the tie in that inning. Pretty simple concept.
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
60005 posts
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:40 pm to
btw if rhymes got a base hit we would all be saying CPM is the greatest coach ever.

CPM took a risk and it didn't pay off, that is what happens in all sports. Rhymes is one of the best hitters in the line up CPM had trust in him that he would produce he just didn't this time.

I would have bunted in that situation but I don't fault CPM's call there.

I suspect that he said if you see a good pitch swing at it, this guy isn't going to give you much to hit, being that it is 2-0 he has to throw a strike if he puts one down the middle hit it. I didn't see where the ball was in the zone but rhymes must have liked it and swung away.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:40 pm to
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likely, but how was a single guaranteed?


Nothing's guaranteed. But having a man on second is called scoring position for a reason.
Posted by The Seaward
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2006
11532 posts
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:41 pm to
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Been playing baseball before you were a gleam in you old man's eye! FUNDAMENTALS HAVE NOT CHANGED!


no counter argument for that
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
26811 posts
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:42 pm to
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Eat a dick stupid frickers


Finally, a voice of reason...I'm kidding.
Posted by DaddyGriff
Vidrine, LA
Member since Nov 2003
604 posts
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:43 pm to
The game was on the line. Rhimes was 0 for 3. 2-0 count. Runner on first. You take a pitch or you bunt. The one thing you can't do is hit into a double play. Period.
Posted by The Seaward
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2006
11532 posts
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:43 pm to
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Nothing's guaranteed. But having a man on second is called scoring position for a reason.


the previous poster said that a sac bunt pretty much guaranteed a run. whether you are pro or anti sac bunt, can't we agree that was an insane statement?
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
60005 posts
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:43 pm to
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Not really. Why do y'all get off on ignoring numbers? He has a chance of getting on base less than half the time (40% at best). Honestly, I have no way of reasonably finding out, but I would surmise that Rhymes is slightly more likely to hit into a DP than advance the runner with a guy on first and <= 1 out.


what are you talking about

our three best hitters are as follows

Bregs
Katz
Rhymes

no question about it.

CPM is a guy who trusts his good hitters (to say rhymes is not a good hitter is beyond stupid) to produce when he calls on them, he didn't, that's baseball.

this would be like in football you have a third and short big part of the game and you play fake it and the guy is overthrown or something. Everyone is pissed and says why didn't you run it up the middle and blaming the coaching, but it was a good call but a huge risk.

This wasn't a great call but it wasn't a no doubter like some of you think it is.
Posted by midcitycid
Member since Nov 2008
880 posts
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:44 pm to
I was ok with it. Until he hit into that double play.
Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
46148 posts
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:44 pm to
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btw if rhymes got a base hit we would all be saying CPM is the greatest coach ever.


I'd be happy but I would probably still think it was a dumb decision that could have cost us the game.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
26811 posts
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:44 pm to
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btw if rhymes got a base hit we would all be saying CPM is the greatest coach ever.


I think you would have had a bunch of giddy fans saying that the coach was lucky that worked out.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:44 pm to
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the previous poster said that a sac bunt pretty much guaranteed a run. whether you are pro or anti sac bunt, can't we agree that was an insane statement?


I don't know what the previous poster said but it would have been the smart thing to do. As it turned out, it would have scored a run.\

Most coaches would have bunted there. It's what you do in that situation.
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
24390 posts
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:44 pm to
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Posted by BasilBogomil
Member since Dec 2012
6160 posts
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:45 pm to
Bunt.
Posted by The Seaward
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2006
11532 posts
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:45 pm to
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The game was on the line. Rhimes was 0 for 3. 2-0 count. Runner on first. You take a pitch or you bunt. The one thing you can't do is hit into a double play. Period.


making a decision on a sample size of three at-bats seems like a great idea. look if you are for bunting that is fine, i think it was a close call. but if it is because he was 0-3 on the game, give me a break.
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