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re: Chavis D vs. Urbans O...
Posted on 8/3/09 at 1:15 pm to CountryVolFan
Posted on 8/3/09 at 1:15 pm to CountryVolFan
tennessee football games, any idea where i can watch them online?
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Posted on 8/3/09 at 1:18 pm to Brendoni
Nope, but the Play by play is in text version on utsports.com
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tennessee football games, any idea where i can watch them online?
Posted on 8/3/09 at 1:44 pm to CountryVolFan
1st time poster but I've been reading The Rant for years.
Chavis should be fine,his defense had zero help last year from UThug offense- like many have already stated. The defense was on the field too much against UCLA, UF & almost the entire game against Bama and was still dishing out feirce licks until the end. He'll look at what Ole Miss did last year and what Monte schemes up and have a hellified defensive package ready for Tebow
Chavis should be fine,his defense had zero help last year from UThug offense- like many have already stated. The defense was on the field too much against UCLA, UF & almost the entire game against Bama and was still dishing out feirce licks until the end. He'll look at what Ole Miss did last year and what Monte schemes up and have a hellified defensive package ready for Tebow
Posted on 8/3/09 at 1:51 pm to Baloo
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Sure, their defense sucked in 2007. It was awesome last year. #1 in total defense and #3 in scoring defense in the SEC. And that's with no help on offense.
This is the most misrepresented stat of all time. Here's a list of the National Offensive rankings of 9 of the 12 teams UT played last year (the other 3 being UF, UGA, and Bama):
Team ScoringO TotalO
UCLA 111 109
UAB 56 86
AU 104 110
No Ill 83 76
Ms St 113 115
USCe 97 96
Wyo 108 119
Vandy 117 105
UK 106 87
So was their defense that good, or was it the crap offenses they played against? I vote for the latter. Regarding UF's ydg numbers against UT, they had short fields most of the game and they ran the ball 40 times draining the clock as much as possible. So it's a little misleading that UT's D held UF in check. It's not really accurate. Don't forget it was 27-0 in the 4th qtr.
This post was edited on 8/3/09 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 8/3/09 at 2:02 pm to MajorGator
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I vote for the latter.
are these stats from 07?
Posted on 8/3/09 at 2:57 pm to MajorGator
their schedule wasn't much differnt that florida's. i don't understand why people don't want to give their defense credit, but everyone has their opinion.
Posted on 8/3/09 at 3:17 pm to Brendoni
Correct, pretty much everyone in the SEC played the same schedule, give or take a few Non conference games.
Alabama and Tennessee tied for first.
Alabama and Tennessee tied for first.
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their schedule wasn't much differnt that florida's. i don't understand why people don't want to give their defense credit, but everyone has their opinion.
Posted on 8/3/09 at 3:20 pm to Brendoni
Im not saying it was bad, but it wasn't close to great. They didn't play Oklahoma, they didn't play LSU, and they didn't play Ole Miss. Look at the avg O they played. UAB was the best O team on that list. If that doesn't tell you all you need to know about UT I don't know what to tell you. UF held Bama to 20pts and OU to 14 pts - 45pts below their avg before that game!
Posted on 8/3/09 at 3:25 pm to TigerPanzer
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Florida's offense is going to score against everyone. Last year, they averaged 43.3 ppg against SEC opponents. Their 2009 offense returns: Tebow, Cooper, Moody, Rainey, Demps, James, Hernandez and the Pouncey brothers among others. Holding this offense to under 30 points would be a victory in itself.
This isn't last year. The Gators have reshuffled their entire offensive line and they enter the season without their two leading pass catchers from last year, Murphy and Harvin.
If you actually watched the UF spring, you would have noticed that the TE was the main receiving threat and the o-line hardly looked dominant.
I'll take LSU's offense over UF's right now straight up. I firmly believe LSU will finish ahead of the Gators in scoring offense.
This post was edited on 8/4/09 at 1:56 am
Posted on 8/3/09 at 3:32 pm to HeartOfGeauxld
A great QB is worth 5 other guys.
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This isn't last year. The Gators have reshuffled their entire offensive line and they enter the season without their two leading pass catchers from last year, Murphy and Harvin.
If you actually watched the UF spring game, you would have noticed that the TE was the main receiving threat and the o-line hardly looked dominant.
I'll take LSU's offense over UF's right now straight up. I firmly believe LSU will finish ahead of the Gators in scoring offense.
Posted on 8/3/09 at 3:33 pm to The Creaux
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UCLA tore him a new one in the season opener
I doubt you watched the game if you think this. Actually this was right after Gustav so if you live around here you most likely did not watch it.
Posted on 8/3/09 at 3:37 pm to CountryVolFan
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A great QB is worth 5 other guys.
Yes, those Tebow to Tebow passes will be devastating to watch.
Seriously, Our offense was 4th in the SEC last year with very spotty QB play. With our new QB having earned a bowl MVP and going through his first spring practice, we'll easily top that.
I like our chances against the Gators. Bring 'em on!
Posted on 8/3/09 at 3:41 pm to CountryVolFan
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That part about not getting a big stop is nonsense. I could pull games from the "down " period of 02-08 and in that 7 year period could show you at least a dozen game saving stops"
Well's lets hear them..2002 we were 8-5..Guess you call the 6 OT period win against Arkansas a BIG STOP.. No other game was EVEN close ...
2003...10-3.. Beat South Carolina in OT 23-20..Beat Alabama 51-43 in 5 OT... The ONLY game you might say we got a HUGE stop was the 10-6 win over Miami... Nothing else even close
2004..10-3.. We beat Florida 30-28 on the "personal foul call when Wilhoit hits a game winning FG after missing a tying extra point..Florida is negated a first down after the personal foul call and it backs them up...
Beat Ole Miss 21-17.. Alabama 17-13...Vandy 38-33 and Kentucky 37-31...Powerhouses all at the time..
2005 5-6 The Rick Clausen/Erik Ainge debacle..don't even won't to go into that one
2006...9-4...Lost to Florida 21-20 ON A LAST SERIES DRIVE BY FLORIDA.. lost 28-24 to LSU when JaMarcus Russell took them the 80 yards with no time outs.. Beat Kentucky 17-12...
2007..10-4... Beat South Carolina 27-24 in OT after a UT fumble...that South Carolina missed recovering... Beat Vandy 25-24 after Vandy roughs the punter with a 24- 10 lead and in the third quarter and they miss a FG as times expires.. Beat Kentucky 52-50 in OT..Dan Williams blocked a FG for Kentucky as time was expiring...
If you can pull up "A DOZEN game winning stops" then I wanna see them..Chavis is what he is..A great LB coach who "WILL NOT OUT SCHEME" anybody..when he has "The Horses" he either brings pressure for 3 quarters then backs off..He DEFINITELY will have the horses in Baton Rouge..
And Dave Clawson was only at UT ONE YEAR..so this stuff of "Chief's great defense saving the day is BS...
Posted on 8/3/09 at 3:42 pm to MajorGator
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UAB was the best O team on that list.
better than Floridas?
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They didn't play Oklahoma
Florida didn't either in the regular season
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they didn't play LSU
Lee is thankful for that, do you honestly think LSU had a "great offense" last year? solid but inconsistant, and had they played LSU I highly doubt LSU would have scored much.
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UF held Bama to 20pts
and florida's offense could move the ball on them, tennessee's defense was on the field more often than not. go back and watch that game, they pressured jpw a lot in the bama game. the score was 16-3 LATE in the 3rd qtr.
This post was edited on 8/3/09 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 8/3/09 at 3:44 pm to Tiger79
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He"ll look at what Ole Miss did last year and what Monte Schemes up and have a hellified defensive package ready for Tebow.
He will play Florida and Tebow like he was still at UT....The man will coach defense the way he always has..You can bet on it..
Posted on 8/3/09 at 3:50 pm to StevieRayVol
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He will play Florida and Tebow like he was still at UT....The man will coach defense the way he always has..You can bet on it..
florida did not have a very good game offensively against tennessee last year. if that happens this year, LSU wins in Baton Rouge.
Posted on 8/3/09 at 3:58 pm to Brendoni
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Florida did not have very good game offensivley agsint Tennesse last year. if that happens this year. LSU wins in Baton Rouge.
It was 27-0 after 3 quarters and Florida never had to drive over 40 yards to score..It easy when you have a SHORT FIELD..Don't did yourself that Chavis is gonna hold this bunch in check..It ain't happening..but hey if LSU knocks them off..it only helps UT in the the EAST..which other than 1998 was the only way other than 2001 we ever reached Atlanta..we had to have SOMEBODY else knock off Florida for us to get there.
Posted on 8/3/09 at 4:04 pm to StevieRayVol
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but hey if LSU knocks them off..it only helps UT in the the EAST..which other
yeah right, Tennesse won't be going to atlanta for a looong time with kiffin as the head coach.Posted on 8/3/09 at 4:28 pm to StevieRayVol
So what qualifies as a huge stop? Nothing? You writing off the entire season by posting the overall record does not mean that the defense didn't make 1 big stop.
I'll go backwards, then quit when I get to 12.
2008:
at Auburn - While trailing by 2 Here is the 4th quart drive chart:
AU 4th A20 14:53 Kickoff A37 13:33 Punt 4-17 1:20
UT 4th A38 13:33 Punt A40 11:57 Punt 3--2 1:36
AU 4th A12 11:57 Punt A20 10:02 Punt 3-8 1:55
UT 4th T42 10:02 Punt T48 08:57 Punt 3-6 1:05
AU 4th A20 08:57 Punt A12 07:35 Punt 3--8 1:22
UT 4th A46 07:35 Punt A40 05:59 Punt 3-6 1:36
AU 4th A20 05:59 Punt A18 03:50 Punt 3--2 2:09
UT 4th T46 03:50 Punt T48 02:59 Punt 3-2 0:51
AU 4th A05 02:59 Punt A14 00:00 End of half 6-9 2:59
Auburn was forced to punt FOUR TIMES from their own territory in the 4th quarter. All we had to do on pretty much every possession was pick up 1 first down for the go ahead FG. Now, I could count this four times, but lets just call it #1
2007 -
Wisconsin: Interception on the final drive to stay ahead 21-17 #2
SEC Championship Game: LSU: Allowed the National Champs only 1 second half score (early in the 3rd) LSU scored a go-ahead TD late in the game on a pick 6 #3
Kentucky: Blocked a game winning FG in OT 2, Stopped a game winning 2 pt play in OT 3, Stopped a game tying 2 pt play in OT 4 #4
Vanderbilt: With an SEC Title game birth on the line and Vanderbilt leading 24-9, Vanderbilt is held scoreless following a 3rd quarter TD Allowing Special teams to set up the offense for 17 points in the 4th quarter for the 1 point win. #5
South Carolina: After the Offense scored a FG in the first overtime, The Defense stopped SC from scoring a game winning TD and held South Carolina to 0 yards in the OT period, forcing Succop to kick a 40 yard FG which he missed. #6
2006:
Kentucky: UK held scoreless in the 2nd half for a 17-12 victory. #7
LSU: Honorable Mention, I won't count it, but they did force JR to fumble on the final drive, only to have it erased by an errant whistle
South Carolina: Clinging to a 7 point lead, UT intercepts SC's final pass for a win #8
Alabama: Held Alabama scoreless the entire 4th quarter, allowing the Offense to get a late FG and TD for a 16-13 lead. Alabama gets the ball back with 1:19 left, but JPW is sacked twice allowing time to expire #9
Florida: Won't count it, but with a lead in the second half Marvin Mitchell takes back an INT for a TD, wiping it out by a "contact to the QB's head" penalty.
Air Force: Stops a game winning 2 PT play after season ending injuries to Harrell and Johnson #10
2005:
LSU: Tigers get 3 second half points and are held to 3 in the game's only OT. UT's last 2 scoring drives must cover only 52 and 2 yards to tie the game. #11
There were a bunch of other stops in this season, but I won't count them since they came in losses of score like 6-3 and 16-15.
2004:
Alabama: Tide held to 1 second half FG for the 17-13 win. Defense also scored a TD in this game. #12
I only had to go back to halfway through '04 and gave you the benefit of the doubt on some losses. You likely don't remember most of these games but rest assured Alabama, South Carolina, Kentucky and LSU fans do. A fan is much more likely to remember the times their team fails than succeeds. However, your statement was ridiculous.
I'll go backwards, then quit when I get to 12.
2008:
at Auburn - While trailing by 2 Here is the 4th quart drive chart:
AU 4th A20 14:53 Kickoff A37 13:33 Punt 4-17 1:20
UT 4th A38 13:33 Punt A40 11:57 Punt 3--2 1:36
AU 4th A12 11:57 Punt A20 10:02 Punt 3-8 1:55
UT 4th T42 10:02 Punt T48 08:57 Punt 3-6 1:05
AU 4th A20 08:57 Punt A12 07:35 Punt 3--8 1:22
UT 4th A46 07:35 Punt A40 05:59 Punt 3-6 1:36
AU 4th A20 05:59 Punt A18 03:50 Punt 3--2 2:09
UT 4th T46 03:50 Punt T48 02:59 Punt 3-2 0:51
AU 4th A05 02:59 Punt A14 00:00 End of half 6-9 2:59
Auburn was forced to punt FOUR TIMES from their own territory in the 4th quarter. All we had to do on pretty much every possession was pick up 1 first down for the go ahead FG. Now, I could count this four times, but lets just call it #1
2007 -
Wisconsin: Interception on the final drive to stay ahead 21-17 #2
SEC Championship Game: LSU: Allowed the National Champs only 1 second half score (early in the 3rd) LSU scored a go-ahead TD late in the game on a pick 6 #3
Kentucky: Blocked a game winning FG in OT 2, Stopped a game winning 2 pt play in OT 3, Stopped a game tying 2 pt play in OT 4 #4
Vanderbilt: With an SEC Title game birth on the line and Vanderbilt leading 24-9, Vanderbilt is held scoreless following a 3rd quarter TD Allowing Special teams to set up the offense for 17 points in the 4th quarter for the 1 point win. #5
South Carolina: After the Offense scored a FG in the first overtime, The Defense stopped SC from scoring a game winning TD and held South Carolina to 0 yards in the OT period, forcing Succop to kick a 40 yard FG which he missed. #6
2006:
Kentucky: UK held scoreless in the 2nd half for a 17-12 victory. #7
LSU: Honorable Mention, I won't count it, but they did force JR to fumble on the final drive, only to have it erased by an errant whistle
South Carolina: Clinging to a 7 point lead, UT intercepts SC's final pass for a win #8
Alabama: Held Alabama scoreless the entire 4th quarter, allowing the Offense to get a late FG and TD for a 16-13 lead. Alabama gets the ball back with 1:19 left, but JPW is sacked twice allowing time to expire #9
Florida: Won't count it, but with a lead in the second half Marvin Mitchell takes back an INT for a TD, wiping it out by a "contact to the QB's head" penalty.
Air Force: Stops a game winning 2 PT play after season ending injuries to Harrell and Johnson #10
2005:
LSU: Tigers get 3 second half points and are held to 3 in the game's only OT. UT's last 2 scoring drives must cover only 52 and 2 yards to tie the game. #11
There were a bunch of other stops in this season, but I won't count them since they came in losses of score like 6-3 and 16-15.
2004:
Alabama: Tide held to 1 second half FG for the 17-13 win. Defense also scored a TD in this game. #12
I only had to go back to halfway through '04 and gave you the benefit of the doubt on some losses. You likely don't remember most of these games but rest assured Alabama, South Carolina, Kentucky and LSU fans do. A fan is much more likely to remember the times their team fails than succeeds. However, your statement was ridiculous.
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That part about not getting a big stop is nonsense. I could pull games from the "down " period of 02-08 and in that 7 year period could show you at least a dozen game saving stops"
Well's lets hear them..2002 we were 8-5..Guess you call the 6 OT period win against Arkansas a BIG STOP.. No other game was EVEN close ...
2003...10-3.. Beat South Carolina in OT 23-20..Beat Alabama 51-43 in 5 OT... The ONLY game you might say we got a HUGE stop was the 10-6 win over Miami... Nothing else even close
2004..10-3.. We beat Florida 30-28 on the "personal foul call when Wilhoit hits a game winning FG after missing a tying extra point..Florida is negated a first down after the personal foul call and it backs them up...
Beat Ole Miss 21-17.. Alabama 17-13...Vandy 38-33 and Kentucky 37-31...Powerhouses all at the time..
2005 5-6 The Rick Clausen/Erik Ainge debacle..don't even won't to go into that one
2006...9-4...Lost to Florida 21-20 ON A LAST SERIES DRIVE BY FLORIDA.. lost 28-24 to LSU when JaMarcus Russell took them the 80 yards with no time outs.. Beat Kentucky 17-12...
2007..10-4... Beat South Carolina 27-24 in OT after a UT fumble...that South Carolina missed recovering... Beat Vandy 25-24 after Vandy roughs the punter with a 24- 10 lead and in the third quarter and they miss a FG as times expires.. Beat Kentucky 52-50 in OT..Dan Williams blocked a FG for Kentucky as time was expiring...
If you can pull up "A DOZEN game winning stops" then I wanna see them..Chavis is what he is..A great LB coach who "WILL NOT OUT SCHEME" anybody..when he has "The Horses" he either brings pressure for 3 quarters then backs off..He DEFINITELY will have the horses in Baton Rouge..
And Dave Clawson was only at UT ONE YEAR..so this stuff of "Chief's great defense saving the day is BS...
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