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re: Chad Jones Impresses Tampa Bay Rays Scouts
Posted on 5/10/13 at 2:08 pm to chalmetteowl
Posted on 5/10/13 at 2:08 pm to chalmetteowl
Trevor Hoffman with his 89 mph fastball and 600+ saves proves speed is not as important as location.
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Posted on 5/10/13 at 2:10 pm to TabledTiger
He'll never be ready in time.
Posted on 5/10/13 at 2:10 pm to TabledTiger
He could probably get that fastball into the lower 90s. That, being a lefty as many people mentioned, and if he has good location and control, he could see himself in an MLB bullpen for a solid number of years
Posted on 5/10/13 at 2:11 pm to quail man
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he was low 90s with that fastball a few years back. i guess some of that loss in velocity can be attributed to not having full power in his push off leg.
Or that he has been out of baseball for a few years and been more focused on working out his legs for apparent reasons.
If you don't throw a football for three years and don't work out your arms as much as you used to when you were, I'm guessing you won't be able to throw the ball as far as you used to
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Trevor Hoffman with his 89 mph fastball and 600+ saves proves speed is not as important as location.
Or Jamie Moyer pitching into his mid-40s despite throwing a fastball slower than most people drive on the highway
This post was edited on 5/10/13 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 5/10/13 at 2:11 pm to quail man
quote:Probably hasnt thrown much either over the last few years, I would guess
i guess some of that loss in velocity can be attributed to not having full power in his push off leg
Posted on 5/10/13 at 2:21 pm to The Mick
i said some, not all. i doubt he put on his glove for the first time three days ago and decided he was going to pitch for some scouts. i'm sure he's been training for a few weeks.
Posted on 5/10/13 at 2:23 pm to Tigerdew
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That will easily get him a contract.
Ok
Posted on 5/10/13 at 2:29 pm to MississippiTiger
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Trevor Hoffman with his 89 mph fastball and 600+ saves proves speed is not as important as location.
Funny cause Hoffman relied on speed. The difference between his FB and changeup was like 12 MPH. He had a killer change up.
Posted on 5/10/13 at 2:30 pm to Lester Earl
Get these Rantards, Lester.
Posted on 5/10/13 at 2:31 pm to MississippiTiger
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Trevor Hoffman with his 89 mph fastball and the best chanegup in the history of baseball and 600+ saves proves changing speeds and deception are just as important as location
FIFY
Posted on 5/10/13 at 2:44 pm to PurpleAndGold86
He will get that up to 92-93 with pitching coaches in the MLB and focused strength training on his upper body and baseball muscles.
He had a nasty slider and solid curve. I think he makes a contract for a lefty specialist. He is also supremely athletic and could be a great fielder as P so he certainly isn't a liability in the field.
He had a nasty slider and solid curve. I think he makes a contract for a lefty specialist. He is also supremely athletic and could be a great fielder as P so he certainly isn't a liability in the field.
This post was edited on 5/10/13 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 5/10/13 at 2:47 pm to Tigerdew
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That will easily get him a contract.
It will. Worse case the stash him in Single A for 2 years then if he doesnt pan out, so what.
Posted on 5/10/13 at 3:23 pm to chalmetteowl
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if he can make it, lefty relievers can last as long as they want basically...
Just ask Barry Bonds and Jesse Orosco
Posted on 5/10/13 at 4:48 pm to lsuroadie
somebody refresh my memory on Chad Jones and his hitting... did he hit much for LSU? Ever? I just remember him pitching relief and trotting off chest-bumping players into the stands.
Posted on 5/10/13 at 4:55 pm to quail man
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he was low 90s with that fastball a few years back. i guess some of that loss in velocity can be attributed to not having full power in his push off leg.
Leg strength has very little to do with it. Especially lower leg strength. Velocity comes from pelvis rotation and weight transfer. Jonathan Broxton and Tim Lincecum have about the same velocity. One guy weighs over 300 lbs and the other guy weighs 175.
Posted on 5/10/13 at 5:36 pm to clamdip
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somebody refresh my memory on Chad Jones and his hitting... did he hit much for LSU? Ever? I just remember him pitching relief and trotting off chest-bumping players into the stands.
12-for-35 (.343) in '09 with 1 HR, 6 RBI, and a .489 OB%
Threw 6.2 innings, giving up 4 hits and 2 ER. 7 SO, 2 BB.
Posted on 5/10/13 at 5:37 pm to LSU82BILL
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Leg strength has very little to do with it. Especially lower leg strength. Velocity comes from pelvis rotation and weight transfer
Disagree. While velocity does come from hip to shoulder separation, leg strength plays a big part in that for most. To get optimal hip to shoulder separation, these guys get triple extension. Which takes powerful legs. I don't know a whole lot of guys that throw 90but the few I do all have very powerful legs. All have verticals close to 35 inches and can squat a ton.
quote:That probably just means they have a similar power to weight ratio.
Jonathan Broxton and Tim Lincecum have about the same velocity. One guy weighs over 300 lbs and the other guy weighs 175
Ofcourse that huge size advantage Broxton has allows him to be a little less powerful and still throw as hard.
This post was edited on 5/10/13 at 5:45 pm
Posted on 5/10/13 at 5:40 pm to clamdip
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somebody refresh my memory on Chad Jones and his hitting... did he hit much for LSU? Ever? I just remember him pitching relief and trotting off chest-bumping players into the stands.
in Omaha...
Posted on 5/10/13 at 6:16 pm to quail man
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he was low 90s with that fastball a few years back. i guess some of that loss in velocity can be attributed to not having full power in his push off leg.
That and probably doing absolutely nothing baseball related for 4 years. Think about that. If starts a long-toss program, band work, etc. He'll pick that back up.
Posted on 5/10/13 at 6:49 pm to LSU82BILL
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Leg strength has very little to do with it. Especially lower leg strength
One of the truly dumbest things I've read on this site
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