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re: Chad Jones hit was NOT helmet to helmet

Posted on 11/28/09 at 10:46 pm to
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
61871 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 10:46 pm to
quote:

quit being a whiney girl


I'm the whiny girl because you're whining about a call in a game that LSU won? You're a little fricking bitch. You fricking ranter.
Posted by rcocke2
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
1690 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 10:46 pm to
It was a clean hit and looked like one live. I mean, what is he supposed to do? CJ's shoulder is what cleaned his clock. I think he went stiff for about three or four seconds. Like a UFC knockout blow
Posted by jwall3
Member since Jun 2008
3029 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 10:46 pm to
Posted by SaintLSUnAtl
THE REAL MJ
Member since Jan 2007
22172 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 10:46 pm to
quote:

I thought it was shoulder, but have you ever seen someone knock themselves out by hitting someone with their shoulder?


I was thinking the same thing.

It was absolutely helmet to helmet. Nothing he coudl do about it. It wasn't intentional..but it's still a legit flag.
Posted by Tiger JJ
Member since Aug 2010
545 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 10:48 pm to
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I don't know what some of you are seeing, but looking at the stills and the video, he led with his shoulder and hit the other guys shoulder. No helmet involved, just a violent collision from the Dreadlocks of Doom.


fail fail fail. Read my post a few posts up. The receiver's head DEFINITELY WENT BACK IMMEDIATELY. That necessarily implies that SOMETHING hit his head first. If it was his shoulder, then fine. But the one thing that is crystal clear is that it was not just shoulder to shoulder.

Again, if you are hit in the chest or shoulder, inertia will cause the head to go the opposite direction of the body. But if the head is hit first, the head goes STRAIGHT BACK.
Posted by tigermikear
Member since Sep 2007
120 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 10:48 pm to
quote:

It was absolutely helmet to helmet


Even when the still shows that it wasn't?
Posted by tb
Ft. Worth Texas
Member since Sep 2003
1232 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 10:49 pm to
Watching in frame by frame on sports center its hard to tell. It was a tough call not to make. It saved a touchdown at the time either way.
Posted by tigerO
Member since Mar 2006
1406 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 10:50 pm to
call it what you want, it was the same as the hit on Tolliver
Posted by wil
Member since Nov 2006
654 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 10:50 pm to
Great stills. Bad call. While I hate to admit it, I can actually see how the refs missed this one.

Also, I think we got a break. I thought Ridley was down before he stretched the ball out of bounds.
Posted by jwall3
Member since Jun 2008
3029 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 10:50 pm to
dumbest post ever. Are you the guy who started the whole grassy knoll head went back not forward JFK controversy
Posted by Come2Conquer
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
4794 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 10:54 pm to
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I thought it was shoulder, but have you ever seen someone knock themselves out by hitting someone with their shoulder?


You've clearly never played a down of football in your life.
Posted by tigermikear
Member since Sep 2007
120 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 10:56 pm to
This discussion is useful...as I'll hear all day tomorrow about Ridley not getting out of bounds...I can reply with "who knows if it matters if they don't call the Personal Foul on 3rd and long".

Bottom line, that's a big call, and if the ref isn't sure, (which the timing shows he wasn't) then you can't make it. Replay shows he shouldn't have.
Posted by Tiger JJ
Member since Aug 2010
545 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 10:57 pm to
quote:

dumbest post ever. Are you the guy who started the whole grassy knoll head went back not forward JFK controversy


Is this a Seinfeld reference or are you just a fricking idiot?
Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
TX
Member since Jan 2005
16822 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 10:57 pm to
You have gone full retard Jersey. They hit shoulder to shoulder. I've taken enough physics classes to know what happens during a collision.
Posted by Archie Bengal Bunker
Member since Jun 2008
15595 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 10:58 pm to
anyone who complained about the La Tech hit should not be defending this one.
Posted by jwall3
Member since Jun 2008
3029 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 10:59 pm to
Posted by Thunderclap
Member since Feb 2006
620 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 10:59 pm to
Look at the last angle of that youtube video. Chad is leading with his shoulder and his helmet is on the back side of the receiver. Not Helmet to helmet. What are some of you guys looking at?
Posted by Tiger JJ
Member since Aug 2010
545 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 11:00 pm to
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You have gone full retard Jersey. They hit shoulder to shoulder. I've taken enough physics classes to know what happens during a collision.


Apparently not. The only way the head goes back FIRST AND IMMEDIATELY is if it is hit directly. Otherwise, it resists the change in motion.

I don't think Jones did it on purpose or anything, it just is what it is.
Posted by LittleDTO
Spring Hill
Member since Nov 2009
27 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 11:02 pm to
I thought it was a shoulder and head hit combined. However, with it being that close, you can't lead with the head on a hit like that. It will be called most times.
Posted by Balloon Pilot
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2007
410 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 11:03 pm to
Three refs closer to the play did not call it. The flag came from 30 yds upfield.
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