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KosmoCramer
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re: CFP Final Rankings
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Hmm...if we only had a system of ranking that would provide uniformity. We could call it the Bowl Championship Series (BCS) rankings...





We'll see how this changes after this week. If the ratio of votes in the polls remains the same, I don't see the computer polls flipping, but it's possible(5 of 6 polls have Ohio State #1).
Wolfe would be the most likely flip: LINK.

Obviously, this has no direct bearing on the CFP, but I believe that the CFP has matched the top 4 teams in this BCS projection every year. The order has been different in some cases.
This post was edited on 12/3 at 9:10 am


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The Pirate King
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Pangu
Member since May 2014
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re: CFP Final Rankings
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I actually think it would be awesome if LSU beat Clemson and Ohio state to win a natty.


In theory, yes. In reality? There’s a much higher risk of injury and losing the game playing Clemson over Utah/OU/Baylor


Celjun
New Orleans Saints Fan
Lafayette
Member since Sep 2007
2406 posts

re: CFP Final Rankings
I thought they dropped us to #2 to avoid an LSU v Bama match up. Well that scenario is done so move us back to our rightful #1 spot. Thx


KosmoCramer
Ohio State Fan
Member since Dec 2007
66414 posts

re: CFP Final Rankings
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I thought they dropped us to #2 to avoid an LSU v Bama match up. Well that scenario is done so move us back to our rightful #1 spot. Thx


That wasn't the reason but some conspiracy theorist LSU fans thought that.


TigerLunatik
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Member since Jan 2005
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re: CFP Final Rankings
IMO if they were using that logic, the last thing they would want would be an all SEC final. I think they would want the LSU/Bama semifinal to eliminate one for sure.


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Vacherie Saint
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Member since Aug 2015
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re: CFP Final Rankings
They want LSU OSU in the final, so I expect nothing to change, even if the tigers beat Georgia. The committee won’t trust OSU to get past Clemson.


KosmoCramer
Ohio State Fan
Member since Dec 2007
66414 posts

re: CFP Final Rankings
The truth is Ohio State has played a pretty darn good schedule and done very well doing it.

LSU has played a great schedule, won all their games, but hasn't totally controlled every game like Ohio State has.

The metrica says that, the polls say that, and members watching the games have seen that.

That's why Ohio State is #1. It's not a conspiracy. Nearly every metric and poll has Ohio State #1.


3rdPart Tiger
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Member since Oct 2007
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re: CFP Final Rankings
What will the metrics say if chalk holds this weekend and LSU has 4 wins over top 10 teams?


KosmoCramer
Ohio State Fan
Member since Dec 2007
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re: CFP Final Rankings
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What will the metrics say if chalk holds this weekend and LSU has 4 wins over top 10 teams?


A) Using rankings mid season rankings is disingenuous.

B) We'll see about the BCS projection(it's very close), but Ohio State has had firm control of nearly all metrics for a while now. That won't change with LSU beating #4 and Ohio State beating #10.
This post was edited on 12/3 at 9:41 am


Vacherie Saint
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re: CFP Final Rankings
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Nearly every metric and poll has Ohio State #1.


That’s not true and you know it. CFP is an absolute outlier and the old BCS will flip Right back to LSU with a Georgia win.

Coaches, AP, ESPN power, etc, all have LSU #1. Vegas Even has LSU favored over Ohio State in a potential matchup.

No one is buying what you are selling. The committee is trying to engineer matchups, and frankly, there’s not much debate about it.


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Vacherie Saint
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re: CFP Final Rankings
If LSU takes care of UGA, They will have 3 top 10 victories and 2 top 5 victories.

Assuming OSU beats Wisconsin, LSU would have beaten 4 of the final top 10 going into bowl games. That’s fricking unheard of.


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KosmoCramer
Ohio State Fan
Member since Dec 2007
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re: CFP Final Rankings
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That’s not true and you know it. CFP is an absolute outlier and the old BCS will flip Right back to LSU with a Georgia win.


That's completely false. I can't even take you seriously after saying that.

Currently Ohio State is #1 in:

RPI
Massey Composite (nearly unanimous #1)
BCS projection
Game Control
SP+
FEI
FPI


LSU has:

Strength of Record
AP
Coaches
ESPN Power


To be honest, I don't even look at the website polls so you may have more.

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No one is buying what you are selling. The committee is trying to engineer matchups, and frankly, there’s not much debate about it.



The data supports the CFP's rankings. I'm sorry that you disagree with it


3rdPart Tiger
LSU Fan
Member since Oct 2007
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re: CFP Final Rankings
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Using rankings mid season rankings is disingenuous.


Who's using midseason rankings?

#1 OSU
#2 LSU
#3 Clemson
#4 UGA
#5 Alabama
#6 Utah
#7 OU
#8 Minnesota
#9 Baylor
#10 Penn St
#11 UF
#12 Wisconsin
#13 Michigan
#14 Oregon
#15 Auburn

Tonight, Minnesota and Michigan will drop. Bama will drop but not out of the top 10 and Auburn will move up.

If chalk holds this weekend, UGA will drop, but not out of top 10. Baylor and Wisconsin will drop allowing UF and Auburn to jump into top 10.


Vacherie Saint
New Orleans Saints Fan
Member since Aug 2015
19624 posts

re: CFP Final Rankings
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RPI
Massey Composite (nearly unanimous #1)
BCS projection
Game Control
SP+
FEI
FPI




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KosmoCramer
Ohio State Fan
Member since Dec 2007
66414 posts

re: CFP Final Rankings
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Who's using midseason rankings?

#1 OSU
#2 LSU
#3 Clemson
#4 UGA
#5 Alabama
#6 Utah
#7 OU
#8 Minnesota
#9 Baylor
#10 Penn St


Where are the 4 top 10 wins?


3rdPart Tiger
LSU Fan
Member since Oct 2007
2727 posts

re: CFP Final Rankings
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SP+
FEI
FPI


3 computer rankings that list Clemson and Bama over LSU.


3rdPart Tiger
LSU Fan
Member since Oct 2007
2727 posts

re: CFP Final Rankings
You must not have read the entire post...

Tonight, Minnesota and Michigan will drop. Bama will drop but not out of the top 10 and Auburn will move up.

If chalk holds this weekend, UGA will drop, but not out of top 10. Baylor and Wisconsin will drop allowing UF and Auburn to jump into top 10.


FlaFlash
Member since Dec 2019
234 posts

re: CFP Final Rankings
I hope Penn State gets matched up with a hungry Georgia or Alabama or Florida or auburn...any of them. Penn St is ridiculously overrated based on a very weak big 10.


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KosmoCramer
Ohio State Fan
Member since Dec 2007
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I intentionally put those last so people didn't freak out. Those are predictive rankings and shouldn't be solely relied on to rank teams. They are a valuable way to find good data though.


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FlaFlash
Member since Dec 2019
234 posts

re: CFP Final Rankings
It depends. If committee keeps Ohio at 1 next week, they will want to pump up Ohio's opponents rankings.


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