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re: CBK has finally checkmated himself.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 2:44 pm to oneg8rh8r
Posted on 1/14/25 at 2:44 pm to oneg8rh8r
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CBK has finally checkmated himself.by oneg8rh8r
No more excuses, he's got a blend of youth, experience; QB he wants, DC he wants.
This implies that he doesn't want to do super well and that he wants to be able to make excuses in trying to achieve that goal. You might want to rephrase that
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Posted on 1/14/25 at 3:03 pm to BigBrod81
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The status of the LSU brand isn't solely determined by championships...The LSU brand is alive & thriving.
I wouldn't say thriving, exactly. The brand is also determined by scandal like the sexual harassment under Les and the OLOL swindle.
LSU's brand is also defined by the fact that the athletic endowment is larger than the academic endowment. Consequently, LSU's academic reputation has fallen off the map. This makes LSU more of a football school than any other school. If you're going to dedicate such a large percentage of your total resources for football, you'd better be winning championships.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 3:20 pm to p226
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I disagree. A 10-2 regular season record in the SEC translates to CFP berth. Almost certainly did in the 4 team format. Definitely in a 12 team bracket.
I’m talking about last year. Georgia didn’t make the CFP at 12-1, so LSU wasn’t getting in at 10-2.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 3:21 pm to LNCHBOX
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His contract is essentially guaranteed. It is a sunk cost at this point.
Just stop. You're not capable of comprehension at this level. Several factors are above your pay grade
1. The future value of money: Where does LSU come up with a $60 million lump sum? If they have it, surely it's invested. At 5%, that amount produces $20 million in interest. So LSU loses $20 mil in potential interest right off the bat.
2. the cost of another coach for those 6 years. LSU will be at or near the top of the pay scale, So 11 million or so per year. LSU is now down $86 million. Interest on that 11 mil per year is another 8.8 million bringing the total cost above the guaranteed contract to 94.8 million over the the contract's time frame.
3. The unknown extra cost to pay players to stay and to replace the key players that transfer out.
leave
Posted on 1/14/25 at 3:22 pm to Harry Boutte
quote:You got this bass ackwards and sounding like jealous nerd talk. LSU lives off football revenue.
LSU's academic reputation has fallen off the map. This makes LSU more of a football school than any other school. If you're going to dedicate such a large percentage of your total resources for football, you'd better be winning championships.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 3:28 pm to olgoi khorkhoi
Posted on 1/14/25 at 3:31 pm to LNCHBOX
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I've never once claimed as such.
You don't have to say it because that's what you are implying.
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But we keep losing games we shouldn't
Out of the 11 losses over Kelly's first 3 seasons which were losses that shouldn't have been?
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not finishing the year ranked
2022 finished #16
2023 finished #12
2024 final rankings will be released Tuesday Jan. 21st.
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LSU will be right back to mediocrity
Please list your reason or signs that the program is headed in that direction?
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We've run off coaches with more success.
Les Miles was sent packing because his refusal to modernize the offense had caused the program to become stagnant. Coach O was fired for back to back seasons of .500 or below football as well as for conduct detrimental to the football program.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 3:45 pm to Harry Boutte
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I wouldn't say thriving, exactly.
Yes, the LSU football brand is thriving. Thriving in revenue, exposure & players produced through the brand. Any argument otherwise is nonsense.
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The brand is also determined by scandal like the sexual harassment under Les and the OLOL swindle.
Sorry but the SEC Rant doesn't determine the status of the LSU brand because that's the only place those two situations are even discussed. Some of you can't separate reality in the real world from the idiotic, low IQ posts on the Tiger & SEC Rant.
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This makes LSU more of a football school than any other school.
You just described the majority of the SEC.
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If you're going to dedicate such a large percentage of your total resources for football, you'd better be winning championships.
Again, you just described the majority of the SEC. The entire SEC schools has two straight years of football failures across the board since no SEC team will win a title again this season.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 3:52 pm to LNCHBOX
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But we keep losing games we shouldn't and not finishing the year ranked,
There isnt a team in cfb that didn't lose games they shouldn't have this year.
We also have a very good chance at finishing ranked this year. While we shouldn't have lost a few games we replaced both coordinators, a Heisman qb and 97% of our offensive production from last year. Considering everything.... this year was about where I expected it. Should've beaten usc or florida. Next year there is no excuses unless Nuss gets hurt.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 4:01 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Considering everything.... this year was about where I expected it.
Ain't no way. This is hinsidght coping
Posted on 1/14/25 at 4:03 pm to charliemurphy69
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Y’all can say what you want but CBK best chance to win a natty was in 2023, he should have left that defensive coordinator in Oxford after that embarrassing lost and I think the season would have turned out differently
Defense was 110th in country. No shot to win a Nati with 110th ranked Defense. Almost every Nati champion has a Top 15 Defense. 2019 LSU might have been only example without that, I don't quite remember where we finished, but you can't count on having a 2019 offense.
I think the defense will be better and have a better shot than 2023.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 4:18 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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There isnt a team in cfb that didn't lose games they shouldn't have this year.
Well Oregon didn't except they lost when it really mattered the most but I totally agree with you.
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We also have a very good chance at finishing ranked this year.
Certainly agree here as well.
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Considering everything.... this year was about where I expected it. Should've beaten usc or florida.
It's pretty obvious after the final two games as to why Kelly & media personalities like Herbstreit were extremely high on Chris Hilton. Most don't realize that in booth analysts interview coaches & observe practices. In preparation for the opener, Herbstreit probably made it several fall practices for both USC & LSU allowing him to see Hilton making plays at those practices which is why he hinted at Hilton being out was a huge blow to the offense. I think with a healthy Hilton the Tigers win that game vs USC.
Hilton made it back for A&M but it was obvious that his timing was off & that he seemed to be pressing to make plays that game, the Bama game & Florida game. The huge loss was Dellenger during the A&M game. That lead to the 3 game losing streak & over that stretch is where we saw Nuss get a ton of pressure right back into his face. Just maybe without those 2 injuries, the offense would have been good enough to overcome the defense's issues in the secondary.
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Next year there is no excuses unless Nuss gets hurt.
I honestly think Nuss played banged up for the majority of 2024 with some kind of foot/ankle injury. But yeah, we need a healthy Nuss for this season in order to make a playoff run.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 4:23 pm to LNCHBOX
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Ain't no way. This is hinsidght coping
LSU lost three 1st rounders to the NFL off of the offense & you expected no significant drop in production or efficiency? Are you serious? Ole Miss is about to undergo an even bigger type hit in 2025 because they are losing so much talent, experience & production on both sides of the ball.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 4:43 pm to BigBrod81
quote:Almost no one expected us to go 8-4. The revisionist history here is too much
LSU lost three 1st rounders to the NFL off of the offense & you expected no significant drop in production or efficiency? Are you serious? Ole Miss is about to undergo an even bigger type hit in 2025 because they are losing so much talent, experience & production on both sides of the ball.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 4:54 pm to VerbalKint
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We have to cut ties if we don’t make the round of 12 next season.
100%
Year 4. Put your nuts where your money is.
He came here to compete for National Championships. His words, not mine.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 4:56 pm to LNCHBOX
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Almost no one expected us to go 8-4. The revisionist history here is too much
Negative. 9-4, secondly yes many did.
Prediction Thread
Posted on 1/14/25 at 5:00 pm to Mayhawman
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You got this bass ackwards... LSU lives off football revenue.
That's what I'm saying. LSU's academic endowment is at the bottom of the SEC. But the paltry sum going to the academic side from athletics won't pay the freight.
And just so we're clear, the larger a university's endowment, the less overhead has to come from tuition and the state general fund.
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nerd talk
If you mean do I have a degree from LSU, yes. It's not exactly growing in value.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 5:02 pm to TigerGrad03
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We, as LSU fans, love to bitch. It's fact. We bitched about DiNardo, Saban, choices that ultimately led to championships, Miles, Ed O, now Kelly. Hell, we bitched about the Jay Johnson hire.
Sir you left out concessions!
Posted on 1/14/25 at 5:04 pm to LNCHBOX
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Ain't no way. This is hinsidght coping
We lost both coordinators...
A Heisman qb, 97% of our offensive production from last year and returned one of the worst lsu defenses since the turn of the century.
I didnt think we would be better without Jayden Daniels..... you think that's cope?
Posted on 1/14/25 at 5:08 pm to LNCHBOX
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Almost no one expected us to go 8-4. The revisionist history here is too much
I won't say it's what most expected but I for sure didn't think we would be better without the Heisman winner and 2 1st rd wrs considering the defensive talent we were lacking.
We should've won either the usc or the Florida game.... almost every sec school lost 3 games this year.
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