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re: Canada and Orgeron : The story

Posted on 1/10/18 at 9:28 am to
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 1/10/18 at 9:28 am to
Posted by Super Dave 1965
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Posted on 1/10/18 at 9:29 am to
He flat out lied to Canada , I would be pissed too
Posted by ThibTiger11
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 1/10/18 at 9:29 am to
It’s when I read things like this, that makes me wonder how someone can be as bad at their job as Joe Alleva is
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 1/10/18 at 9:29 am to
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The transfer rumors dont usually start until spring
Scarborough got them started Monday afternoon.
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 1/10/18 at 9:30 am to
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Canada bad mouth/talked down to players & recruits about Orgeron? and also said "i hope we dont win another game"


How do you gain support in firing a coordinator with a hefty buyout?


You start a smear campaign.



End of the day, we're still stuck with the lesser qualified coach.
Posted by MarlinMan
BSL
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 1/10/18 at 9:32 am to
Like others have said, thanks for the info. Sounds like the next 18 months will see lots more changes. Unfortunately.

Hopefully, LSU can hire a strong AD (Woodward, Radakovich, etc.) who can stabilize this mess and lead LSU back to a path of consistent top 10 finishes.

Thanks for your insight...
Posted by ShreveportLSU
Member since Aug 2012
114 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 9:33 am to
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Canada submitted a complaint to Alleva, and the meeting took place behind closed doors. It involved, to my knowledge, Canada, O, Aranda , and Esnminger (likely to help Orgeron make his case a little better).

Normally it is bad practice to go above your bosses head and talk to his boss, but in this case it may have been justified.

In the meeting, Alleva was very clear. When Orgeron got involved in offensive affairs, we lost the worst game in years. Orgeron was told to give the keys to Canada and let him gameplan for the coming games.


Is this is true, it would stand to reason that Alleva won't allow Ensminger to be the OC.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 1/10/18 at 9:34 am to
going to be interesting to see how season tickets sell. Last year was the first in a while I can recall of season tickets making their way to the general public. If that trend continues, they'll be forced to take notice.

Between Bama continuing its dominance and us stuck in mediocrity, apathy among the fans will continue to grow.
Posted by BDJ
Texas
Member since Jul 2016
2135 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 9:37 am to
He sure did throw the ball quicker to defenders than Etling did.

12/24 1 TD 2 INT (another pass was thrown right to a Syracuse LB but he dropped the pick 6). When Brennan came in the game, he did worse than Etling every single time. Stats don't lie.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 1/10/18 at 9:37 am to
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Hannagriff said they clearly heard Canada yelling and cursing in the press box calling for Brennan during a home game this year. Jives with your reported outburst at Florida.

Florida was on the road.
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 1/10/18 at 9:40 am to
Canada doesn't walk away with 1.7 million if that were true
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 1/10/18 at 9:40 am to
I'm sure it happened on more than one occasion.
Posted by TigerFan4040
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Posted on 1/10/18 at 9:44 am to
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TenthTiger

Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 1/10/18 at 9:45 am to
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hey pirate glad you still have your head up your arse. Keep on keeping on

I'm not taking Pirate's side, but no one responded to a question I had about one of the reports from the OP. Does anyone recall or have game video confirming O actually using his headset during the Florida game? O changing plays last second? Was he actually signaling in plays? Calling run vs pass?

O needs to be gone. No doubt. I just won't latch on to stories that defy logic and feed into mob mentality.

It could be true, but it's just bizarre. Everyone embellishes their side to support their narrative. I've found that the truth usually lies somewhere in between.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 1/10/18 at 9:46 am to
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It's always a bad practice.



False
Posted by 5Alive
With Your Moms
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Posted on 1/10/18 at 9:49 am to
Brennan’s release is a lot quicker than Etlings but as far as arm strength it probably is what and what.
Posted by Nutriaitch
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Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 1/10/18 at 9:51 am to
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I'm not denying that this is possible, but I'm curious if anyone has video of the game actually showing O in the headset communicating during the game.

This would be an aberration to what we've witnessed all season. I often joked to friends about him standing there chewing on his thumb instead of communicating.

Unless someone can confirm that O was calling up to the booth I just wonder about the truth here.




he doesn't have to say anything to the booth to change the play.
the players are on the field, that's who he needs to tell.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34319 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 9:54 am to
So, Tenth, in that As The Valley Shook puff piece, they claimed that Aranda didn't like Canada and wanted him gone. Do you have any reaction to that?
Posted by lsutiger2
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2008
6180 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 9:56 am to
Saban did this same shite to Kiffin but the difference is saban has the hardware. Ed Orgeron is the HEAD football coach, he can do what he thinks is best for the team. We are going to find out real soon if he is a coach that can take us to the top.

The problem I have in all this, is people exalting Canada like he could do no wrong. Besides Pitt last year his offenses were not perfect.


Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158762 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 9:57 am to
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O actually using his headset


not sure. Until today I thought O's headset was just a direct feed to Ponamsky whispering positive reinforcement in his ear "you are so smart and handsome" "you're not stupid at all" "I love you"
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