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re: Can we get a Rant explanation of the FG?
Posted on 10/9/23 at 5:06 pm to Fast Times @ LSU
Posted on 10/9/23 at 5:06 pm to Fast Times @ LSU
Has to go between uprights while crossing bar, not after and cannot go over top- whole ball inside while crossing bar
This post was edited on 10/9/23 at 5:07 pm
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Posted on 10/9/23 at 5:15 pm to Fratigerguy
quote:except, it's not. If the ball strikes the upright, it's not an automatic miss; if it bounces in and over the crossbar it's good.
I got news for you. If the ball is below the top of the goal posts, it has to go inside as well. The rule is consistent.
But apparently, if the ball is higher than the upright, any "contact" (passing through the vector occupied by the upright) is an automatic miss.
Posted on 10/10/23 at 1:18 am to Scoob
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except, it's not. If the ball strikes the upright, it's not an automatic miss; if it bounces in and over the crossbar it's good.
Right. That’s why as I said the optimal solution is whether the majority of the ball is to the outside or inside.
That or extend the uprights.
Friendly reminder we lost a Natty because of this crap
Posted on 10/10/23 at 9:31 am to TigerDat
You don't see the difference between the pylon and the goal post?
Posted on 10/10/23 at 9:33 am to Gorilla Ball
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If it goes over the top of the post it’s defined as a miss. Per tv announcer
It has to be inside the goal post
Is Mr. tv announcer correct on that?
Posted on 10/10/23 at 9:35 am to Scoob
What kind of rule would you write that would account for what you're talking about? You want the guy to predict how the ball would behave if it struck a physical post that extended to that height?
Posted on 10/10/23 at 9:40 am to ForeverEllisHugh
What if, instead of deciding what portion of the ball passes inside or outside the upright, we just say the whole ball has to pass inside?
Posted on 10/10/23 at 9:42 am to jawnybnsc
There is no good rule. Last year Ark lost to A&M because Cam bounced one off the top of the post…but it’s on an NFL upright which is more narrow than college ones…that’s a bad beat.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nP8SjHGfAMs
Cam will be a pro, so I’m sure he’s over it. He made a very impressive 56 this weekend…into the net.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nP8SjHGfAMs
Cam will be a pro, so I’m sure he’s over it. He made a very impressive 56 this weekend…into the net.
This post was edited on 10/10/23 at 9:46 am
Posted on 10/10/23 at 9:47 am to Gaston
That was a doink regardless of how thick the post is.
Posted on 10/10/23 at 9:55 am to jawnybnsc
Narrow as in the distance between the two posts. On any college field goal that is inside the uprights with no question, but since they play on Dallas’ home field it was not…and a loss of the game.
ETA: the above is not factually correct
ETA: the above is not factually correct
This post was edited on 10/10/23 at 10:15 am
Posted on 10/10/23 at 10:09 am to Gaston
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GastonCan we get a Rant explanation of the FG? by Gaston
college and NFL has had the same width for like 30 years now.
Posted on 10/10/23 at 10:13 am to Nutriaitch
Both 18’6”…they look crazy different due to how high and thin the NFL ones are and the hash mark difference…
Nutty.
My son is still in high school, so I still have much to learn.
Nutty.
My son is still in high school, so I still have much to learn.
Posted on 10/10/23 at 10:35 am to Fast Times @ LSU
The attempt must go THROUGH the crossbars, not OVER them.
It was the same situation as Ronnie Lewis's potential game-winning misfire vs Alabama in 1985. That kick had the distance, and the direction, but the ALTITUDE was way too tall.
It was the same situation as Ronnie Lewis's potential game-winning misfire vs Alabama in 1985. That kick had the distance, and the direction, but the ALTITUDE was way too tall.
Posted on 10/10/23 at 10:38 am to tarzana
Incorrect.
Posted on 10/10/23 at 10:59 am to Scoob
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I got news for you. If the ball is below the top of the goal posts, it has to go inside as well.
quote:
except, it's not. If the ball strikes the upright, it's not an automatic miss; if it bounces in and over the crossbar it's good.
Jesus people, this isn't rocket surgery.
the ball must pass INSIDE of the goalposts. (ETA: which means INSIDE the imaginary line that extends indefinitely above to posts as well)
doesn't matter how you get it inside (i.e. right down middle, bounce off an upright, bounce off crossbar, etc.) as long as it passes INSIDE the goalposts.
it's really that simple.
think of it like basketball or pool.
you can bank it in if you want, but it still has to go in.
This post was edited on 10/10/23 at 11:01 am
Posted on 10/10/23 at 11:26 am to Nutriaitch
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Jesus people, this isn't rocket surgery.
first time i've seen rocket science and brain surgery crossed.
Anyway, its a dumb rule in that it is not reviewable. What if this was the end of the game and it decided the game one way or another.
Posted on 10/10/23 at 11:28 am to TopWaterTiger
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first time i've seen rocket science and brain surgery crossed.
really?!!?
I can't take credit for it, that's been around for a pretty long time now.
Posted on 10/10/23 at 11:30 am to TopWaterTiger
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Anyway, its a dumb rule in that it is not reviewable. What if this was the end of the game and it decided the game one way or another.
it wouldn't be hard to set up a camera looking directly up each upright.
I mean we have them on the pylons now, and in some games on the first down markers.
Posted on 10/10/23 at 11:37 am to Fast Times @ LSU
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a kick that goes over the top of the goalposts.
Is NO GOOD
Posted on 10/11/23 at 4:05 am to jawnybnsc
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What if, instead of deciding what portion of the ball passes inside or outside the upright, we just say the whole ball has to pass inside?
Or what if we say the whole ball has to pass outside for it to be no good? Works both ways.
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