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Can we ease off Coach E? (Long post alert)
Posted on 11/24/20 at 9:57 pm
Posted on 11/24/20 at 9:57 pm
Ensminger isn’t the best. And because he laid a couple eggs against the best team in the nation, everyone wants to bring that up and use as if that’s a good example to use when describing his track record so far as our OC.
But BY GOD have some sense. Our offense has been a THOUSAND times better than it was with good ole Les.
His FIRST game as OC, using the SAME PLAYBOOK that his predecessor was using, with only one week to prepare as OC, he set school records. Mid season, same players, same playbook. Idc who we were playing. That is an outstanding achievement. That is a testament to his play calling abilities. And might I add, he broke multiple offensive records that same year, before Burrow and before Brady.
Like I said, I’m aware there are better guys out there. He’s not the best. But he has worked his tail off from day one, he’s got grit, and idc what anyone on here says, the man can call a ball game.
Want to go fast? He can call an effective hurry up.
Want to play keep away? He can call a good game that way too. (40+ min TOP last week)
Want to dot the I and play old ball? He’s proved he can do that when he inherited Cam’s playbook.
Want him to run a spread with RPO mixed in? The man admitted he needed a teacher to learn the concepts, he learned it well and now he’s doing a GREAT job in my opinion on his own.
Nobody calls the right play every down. But he’s been DAM good. He was on his way to possibly breaking more records with Brennan at QB (Brennan was already on pace to have the most yards ever by an LSU QB).
I know this was ridiculously long. But hey, it is called the RANT lol.
Y’all need to open your eyes, watch every game, remember what you watched and get off E’s back until he gives reason.
But BY GOD have some sense. Our offense has been a THOUSAND times better than it was with good ole Les.
His FIRST game as OC, using the SAME PLAYBOOK that his predecessor was using, with only one week to prepare as OC, he set school records. Mid season, same players, same playbook. Idc who we were playing. That is an outstanding achievement. That is a testament to his play calling abilities. And might I add, he broke multiple offensive records that same year, before Burrow and before Brady.
Like I said, I’m aware there are better guys out there. He’s not the best. But he has worked his tail off from day one, he’s got grit, and idc what anyone on here says, the man can call a ball game.
Want to go fast? He can call an effective hurry up.
Want to play keep away? He can call a good game that way too. (40+ min TOP last week)
Want to dot the I and play old ball? He’s proved he can do that when he inherited Cam’s playbook.
Want him to run a spread with RPO mixed in? The man admitted he needed a teacher to learn the concepts, he learned it well and now he’s doing a GREAT job in my opinion on his own.
Nobody calls the right play every down. But he’s been DAM good. He was on his way to possibly breaking more records with Brennan at QB (Brennan was already on pace to have the most yards ever by an LSU QB).
I know this was ridiculously long. But hey, it is called the RANT lol.
Y’all need to open your eyes, watch every game, remember what you watched and get off E’s back until he gives reason.
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Posted on 11/24/20 at 9:57 pm to Bayoubengal205
No
Posted on 11/24/20 at 10:01 pm to Bayoubengal205
They could have hired a guy off Craigslist and he would have been a thousand times better than Les and Cam.
Posted on 11/24/20 at 10:44 pm to Bayoubengal205
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This post was edited on 4/17/21 at 6:01 pm
Posted on 11/24/20 at 10:56 pm to Bayoubengal205
Lemme guess he’s a real Tiger through and through !!!
Posted on 11/24/20 at 11:08 pm to Bayoubengal205
The hate on Coach E is unwarranted and misplaced. E is who everyone thought he is - a guy who shouldn’t be OC of an elite program. Nothing wrong with that, I’m sure he’s a good guy and he’s done good things for this program. I harbor no ill will towards him.
Same with Pelini. Neither should be in the positions they are in currently - and that isn’t hindsight, it was known information at the times of the hires. They are who we thought they were.
The anger should be with O, as it was his duty to hire elite coordinators, especially since O has no speciality and his plan is to rely on said coordinators. He failed miserably, and that is where the vitriol should be aimed.
Same with Pelini. Neither should be in the positions they are in currently - and that isn’t hindsight, it was known information at the times of the hires. They are who we thought they were.
The anger should be with O, as it was his duty to hire elite coordinators, especially since O has no speciality and his plan is to rely on said coordinators. He failed miserably, and that is where the vitriol should be aimed.
Posted on 11/24/20 at 11:25 pm to Bayoubengal205
Who here would be down with us paying Joe Brady 2.5-3MM to recreate the magic? And keep slinger because they work well together.
Posted on 11/24/20 at 11:41 pm to Tigerfan56
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The hate on Coach E is unwarranted and misplaced
Nobody “hates” him. Don’t be so dramatic. His past pretty much warrants some skepticism OC wise and he’s an old school cat who was the TE’s coach not that long ago in a Stone Age offense. But nobody “hates” him.
Posted on 11/25/20 at 2:05 am to GeauxLSUGeaux
Dramatic? Idk where you’ve been the last 20 years but you e never heard the phrase “hating” on somebody? It doesn’t mean you literally hate them LMAO.
And not once did I say that I think he’s the man for the job I made it clear that I know he’s not the best.
It’s not his fault that the offer was extended to him, unless a person can be at fault for being a good enough worker showing great work ethic. Because that among other things is what led to Coach O extending the “promotion” to E.
And both E and O explained that E was reluctant to taking the job, knowing his limitations. But O persisted. So E took a promotion at the school he loves and is making dam good money because of it.
All I’m saying is LSU is having a bad season and people that don’t know what’s going on just assume it’s E and start bashing him online and it’s just stupid.
The problems we have this year are from #1 Coach O for not being able to handle obstacles (COVID and the reload situation), major success (obviously has softened up and took to the “fame and glory” and lost focus) AND most importantly his job as the hire/fire guy. (Awful hires 90% of the time so far). And #2 Pelini for being a bad coach. The players have zero respect for him, when that many people have a lack of respect for someone I assume it’s because that person is a complete douche bag. He can’t do his job which includes putting players in the best place to succeed on the field, or make in-game (much less week to week) adjustments to his defense.
What’s E done? Well so far he started out this year on track to have Brennan breaking records as a first year starter, and then in my opinion has put together good game plans to bring on a true freshman as easily as he can and still have success, which in itself shows the ability to adjust and adapt, and even saving the defenses arse last week by playing keep away from Arkansas. He’s fielding a good product (not great) AND helping the defense (now).
With all that said, I’ve said in previous posts that these players deserve the absolute best coaches that LSU can get. And I don’t believe LSU has even attempted to get the best coach in ANY coaching position on the team in a good while. Coach O needs to go if he can’t make the right hires. And Pelini doesn’t need to be dealing with young men in ANY capacity. At Nebraska, Youngstown and now LSU he’s lost the respect of his players and the team quits on him. Pretty obvious the generation today doesn’t put up with that kind of coaching anymore. Coach O admittedly had to change from the screaming in the face ways of old. Pelini obviously hasn’t gotten that memo and probably never will.
I’d like to see E stay on staff because I think he’s done a good job that he was somewhat pushed into.
And not once did I say that I think he’s the man for the job I made it clear that I know he’s not the best.
It’s not his fault that the offer was extended to him, unless a person can be at fault for being a good enough worker showing great work ethic. Because that among other things is what led to Coach O extending the “promotion” to E.
And both E and O explained that E was reluctant to taking the job, knowing his limitations. But O persisted. So E took a promotion at the school he loves and is making dam good money because of it.
All I’m saying is LSU is having a bad season and people that don’t know what’s going on just assume it’s E and start bashing him online and it’s just stupid.
The problems we have this year are from #1 Coach O for not being able to handle obstacles (COVID and the reload situation), major success (obviously has softened up and took to the “fame and glory” and lost focus) AND most importantly his job as the hire/fire guy. (Awful hires 90% of the time so far). And #2 Pelini for being a bad coach. The players have zero respect for him, when that many people have a lack of respect for someone I assume it’s because that person is a complete douche bag. He can’t do his job which includes putting players in the best place to succeed on the field, or make in-game (much less week to week) adjustments to his defense.
What’s E done? Well so far he started out this year on track to have Brennan breaking records as a first year starter, and then in my opinion has put together good game plans to bring on a true freshman as easily as he can and still have success, which in itself shows the ability to adjust and adapt, and even saving the defenses arse last week by playing keep away from Arkansas. He’s fielding a good product (not great) AND helping the defense (now).
With all that said, I’ve said in previous posts that these players deserve the absolute best coaches that LSU can get. And I don’t believe LSU has even attempted to get the best coach in ANY coaching position on the team in a good while. Coach O needs to go if he can’t make the right hires. And Pelini doesn’t need to be dealing with young men in ANY capacity. At Nebraska, Youngstown and now LSU he’s lost the respect of his players and the team quits on him. Pretty obvious the generation today doesn’t put up with that kind of coaching anymore. Coach O admittedly had to change from the screaming in the face ways of old. Pelini obviously hasn’t gotten that memo and probably never will.
I’d like to see E stay on staff because I think he’s done a good job that he was somewhat pushed into.
Posted on 11/25/20 at 2:17 am to Bayoubengal205
Ensminger is selfless and a true Tiger who’s done whatever’s been asked of him to help LSU football. He wanted to retire after the 2016 season but was asked by Orgeron to stay on and help the program so he did. Ensminger as our OC has nothing to do with him or his ambition, it’s all Orgeron, his buddy system hiring practices and loyalty insecurities.
This post was edited on 11/25/20 at 2:18 am
Posted on 11/25/20 at 2:18 am to Tigerfan56
This is pretty much what I was getting at.
No Es not the best (as I said) but he’s done a good job after being kinda pushed into the job by coach O.
Now I truly believe Pelini is just a bad dude. The jobs he had after he left LSU, he lost the respect of his players and they quit playing for him. He even pretty much said so himself on a post game interview when he was all pissed off and emotional. He has no business in a position that requires any kind of leadership/mentor ship with young men.
And again, I agree. Coach O’s feet is where the whole thing ends up. Like you said. His job is to get these players the best coaches he possibly can. Not only has he failed big time with Pelini, but I think it’s safe to say he’s failed to get the BEST he can get in every hire except Brady. Brady is hands down the best passing game coordinator I’ve ever been aware of. Best OC? Idk he’s still on year one in that role. But he was the best for the Passing game coordinator position no doubt.
Some people just aren’t able to acquire the message from any post longer than a couple sentences so they just latch onto one or two things in a long one and respond on here to what they think it meant. Which as anyone who has any kind of reading comprehension skills knows, you have to read the whole thing to understand the overall message.
Thank you for understanding what I was saying, and for your input #Tigerfan 56
No Es not the best (as I said) but he’s done a good job after being kinda pushed into the job by coach O.
Now I truly believe Pelini is just a bad dude. The jobs he had after he left LSU, he lost the respect of his players and they quit playing for him. He even pretty much said so himself on a post game interview when he was all pissed off and emotional. He has no business in a position that requires any kind of leadership/mentor ship with young men.
And again, I agree. Coach O’s feet is where the whole thing ends up. Like you said. His job is to get these players the best coaches he possibly can. Not only has he failed big time with Pelini, but I think it’s safe to say he’s failed to get the BEST he can get in every hire except Brady. Brady is hands down the best passing game coordinator I’ve ever been aware of. Best OC? Idk he’s still on year one in that role. But he was the best for the Passing game coordinator position no doubt.
Some people just aren’t able to acquire the message from any post longer than a couple sentences so they just latch onto one or two things in a long one and respond on here to what they think it meant. Which as anyone who has any kind of reading comprehension skills knows, you have to read the whole thing to understand the overall message.
Thank you for understanding what I was saying, and for your input #Tigerfan 56
Posted on 11/25/20 at 2:41 am to Bayoubengal205
I think SE has been serviceable, but the deal was to have the best coordinators. Brady was the best. Aranda was one of the best. What we have now is shite.
Posted on 11/25/20 at 5:10 am to Bayoubengal205
I think most fans like E as a man. I think most fans can see that there was a reason he coached TEs rather than ran an offense.
It’s not a shot at E to dislike the offensive production. I think O has made dismal hires and this is one of them.
It’s not a shot at E to dislike the offensive production. I think O has made dismal hires and this is one of them.
Posted on 11/25/20 at 5:30 am to ColdTurkey
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Who here would be down with us paying Joe Brady 2.5-3MM to recreate the magic? And keep slinger because they work well together.
Burrow was the biggest part of that magic. Finley, Brennan or Johnson, none of them are Burrow. Coaches call the plays but players have to make them. Burrow made them in spades and then some.
Posted on 11/25/20 at 6:32 am to Nobelium
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He is objectively not a good offensive coordinator.
He is objectively an excellent coordinator. When he had talent equal to Bama he had a better offense than Saban and Sark. Even this year, after historic levels of lost talent, his offense was very good - then he lost his QB. Even with a freshman QB his offense is decent.
Posted on 11/25/20 at 6:40 am to Penrod
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hen he had talent equal to Bama he had a better offense than Saban and Sark.
brady won the broyles award and became an NFL OC after one year. He was the one that installed this offense. i like Ensminger but he couldn't install an offense to play to burrows strengths thats why they had brady. Excellent OC's don't need expensive passing game coordinators that handle the red zone and third downs. Posted on 11/25/20 at 7:22 am to justice
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Brady won the broyles award and became an NFL OC after one year. He was the one that installed this offense.
Brady was great! The offense was half installed in 2018. Brady brought a lot of expertise that was lacking in an offensive staff that had very little experience with the spread. Ensminger was the one who wanted Brady.
Saban didn't know anything about the spread, except that he had to implement it to succeed. He did so by hiring coaches who knew it. The difference between Saban and Ensminger, in this instance, is that Saban didn't make as good a choice as Ensminger did.
Posted on 11/25/20 at 7:25 am to Bayoubengal205
He just needs a Brady type to help him with game planning and with 3rd downs/red zone conversions
Posted on 11/25/20 at 7:28 am to Bayoubengal205
E is well compensated, but the problem this year is Bo(o)
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