re: Can we all agree the next two months decides the coaching direction we go?

If LSU goes on to win the SEC title, then and only then should O be considered. But even at that, I would still hire Herman if we can get him.

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This is the only reason.

If they don't admit it, they're either being disingenuous, or they're just so hopelessly enchanted by Ed's cajun spell that they can't step back for one second and think rationally.

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I like the guy, I think he's awesome and probably a blast to play for. Just don't see him as a good option let alone the best option. It's a different deal being the permanent coach.

he might end up earning a shot but i'd hope he only gets it after 2 or 3 guys say no thanks first tbh. but i mean if it comes down to him or kiffin i'd go with Orgeron tbh.

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Winning a national title and you would "consider" him? That would mean he ran the table, won the SECCG, and beat two of the best 4 teams in college football in the playoffs.

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Well of course he would have the job. Maybe "consider" is the wrong word. The conversation in this thread has been mostly about a 6-2 finish. I don't think he's even "considered" at that record unless we have a lot of people turn down the job. 7-1 with a Bama win would get interesting.

ETA: I mean, do people honestly think there's a decent chance we can run the table? I would have to see much more play to even think about that.

I know this is the rant and all, but man people are ridiculous on here. There are obviously a ton of hypotheticals going on, but we can also analyze some facts.

Tom Herman, while I also think is great, did not recruit Ward Jr. Curly Hallman rode Favre, remember? Herman's only loss was when Ward couldn't play.

Herman has not shown he can build and maintain "his" program, but I admit he "probably" can.

Orgeron was obviously not qualified to be a head coach at Ole Miss at that time. Ole Miss was a terrible program then and immediately after with Nutt. Now that they are buying top players and have a good coach they are better.

Orgeron proved that he had grown as a coach by his interim record at USC. He has worked on more staffs, which has given him opportunity to learn and grow his knowledge base. He has proven he can maintain talent by his recruiting ability.

Did he take over a talent-laden team that Miles built? Sure he did. But he also in his first week helped LSU put up THE LSU SCHOOL RECORD for offense vs SEC opponent.
He still has a long road to navigate for certain, but if he wins the SEC and gets us into the playoff, or even better wins the whole thing (I have no belief it will happen) people here are thinking that he is not qualified?

Seriously?! I'll take him in that circumstance over a guy who still has a lot to prove as a head coach. This is coming from someone who wanted O nowhere near the program. I can admit I was wrong about him. Why would you want to get rid of a coach who loves the program, can recruit, has already admitted to letting his coaches coach, and who would've possibly run the table when given his shot?

The rant never ceases to amaze.

Oh ok. I was about to say.

Do I think we run the table? No. I think going 4-3 is realistic. But if those 3 losses are close, and a win against Bama sprinkled in there, it would be tough to let him go. But I would be okay with it if we get a huge name.

We better hope Charlie Strong gets it together pretty quick or we'll be competing with them for the names we all want to see on the short list.

Beating bama every year or else being fired is a ridiculous metric. As long as Saban is around we'd be firing coaches every 2 years or so at best.

Being the head coach of LSU is about representing this state and connecting with people. Miles never impressed me on a personal level. His goofy nonsense talk didn't woo me like it did some dummies. Coach O loves this state and loves lsu and it oozes out of him. I can't think of a better representative. Being a coonass does count for something.

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Being a coonass does count for something.

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god help us

Outcome of the Alabama game holds as much consideration as overall record, IMO. I believe he could lose 2 and get the job as long as one of those loses is not to Alabama. But, lose only one and that to Alabama, then I believe it will be Herman's job for the taking. Six straight losses to Saban and the powers that be will want to clean house after the season is finished. Last night proved a lot to a lot of people just how profoundly Miles was hindering this offense. But, it's just one game. That being said, this coaching staff has the talent to run the table and win the NC. But, they must prove they can out coach Saban and any other coaching staff out there. I'm not completely sold on this staff just yet. As concerning coaching ability, the stick with which this staff will ultimately be measured after the season is Alabama. Personally, I'm pulling for coach O and this staff to get the job done. But, if not, then let's get somebody in there who can.

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They are BDP homers for some reason

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Yep. And we ran Chip Kelly's offense yesterday.