re: Can someone tell me what has changed with covid that is making these power 5 conferences

Zero top down leadership and direction. They’re taking the easy and what they mistakenly think is the self-preservation way out. It’s not only wrong but it’s knowing that there’s no chance that football will really be played in the spring.

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I work in the airline business. Planes are full .

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You didn’t seriously post this?
TSA data shows air traffic about 750k vs 2.5 million last year

Mac cancelled due to the 57k a week testing cost per team...

no MAC team could effort the cost.

I’ve seen a lot of those MAC midweek games and they can play in the fall and let the fans in. There is plenty of room for social distancing.

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We are seeing a surge of patients right now. The ICUs are filling up with plans to expand them. That is just an FYI.

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Straight up a lie.

I’m a physician working with corona virus patients in ICU and medical floors. What grasshopper is saying is true. I’m in Natchez, Miss, and it’s true here. We have a full ICU. Five days ago we had 6 ventilators going and only two nurses to work the six. We have had many nurses go down with corona, so we aren’t the same hospital we were in early April at the onset of the epidemic. The current surge is from opening businesses too soon and too fast. Those openings should only occur when case load is declining rather than when rising as has been done in Miss. I myself have only had six days free of the hospital in the five and a half months since the epidemic started. We’re tired and drained and expecting an explosion of cases about 4-6 weeks after schools open. That’s why I say we don’t need football to add to the coming surge—I’m not thinking so much of the athletes as I am the spectators getting the disease and spreading it. Any group event now is dangerous. Education might—might!—be worth it, but not football.

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Well I'm the greek god of truth and say you're lying

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I really do wish you were right. This whole situation is a horror show, and there is no end in sight. Unless we do something different, ie., a European style intense lockdown for 4-6 weeks to get the caseload down so that health dept contact tracing teams can manage outbreaks, the Univ of Wahington medical center is projecting 300,000 deaths by late November. Extrapolated that would imply 500,000 deaths by Mardi Gras or Easter. It would also mean we’ll be facing the same situation regarding football a year from now.

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I really do wish you were right. This whole situation is a horror show, and there is no end in sight. Unless we do something different, ie., a European style intense lockdown for 4-6 weeks to get the caseload down so that health dept contact tracing teams can manage outbreaks, the Univ of Wahington medical center is projecting 300,000 deaths by late November. Extrapolated that would imply 500,000 deaths by Mardi Gras or Easter. It would also mean we’ll be facing the same situation regarding football a year from now.

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the death rate is exaggerated. Hospitals classify anyone dying who has corona as a corona death, regardless of whether corona actually killed them. The true death rate of corona is very, very low, except for high risk people, who should take steps to protect themselves. But the other 99.5% of the population should return to normal.

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the death rate is exaggerated. Hospitals classify anyone dying who has corona as a corona death, regardless of whether corona actually killed them. The true death rate of corona is very, very low, except for high risk people, who should take steps to protect themselves. But the other 99.5% of the population should return to normal.

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Do you work at a hospital?. In Miss, Alabama, and Louisiana where I've worked the doctor (me) treating the patient declares the cause of death and signs the certificate. If someone has corona it tends to cause problems in multiple organ systems--the heart, liver, arteries, brain, lungs, kidneys. You can play semantics and say the patient died of myocarditis and then say he died of heart disease, but the myocarditis was caused by corona. Even if the mortality rate is only 1-2%, if 200,000,000 Americans get infected we're dealing with 3,000,000 deaths. And if the death rate is higher for high risk people (and sure it is) then it is up to society to help protect them. It's callous to say they should watch out for themselves if you can do something to reduce their risk. Imagine yourself in their spot. This is a war, after all. As a captain told my unit once, "Help your buddy!"

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the death rate is exaggerated. Hospitals classify anyone dying who has corona as a corona death, regardless of whether corona actually killed them. The true death rate of corona is very, very low, except for high risk people, who should take steps to protect themselves. But the other 99.5% of the population should return to normal.

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Two things:

1. How do you define high risk? 65+? Obesity? Heart disease? Diabetes? Cancer? etc.

2. Not sure where you get the 99.5% of the population is not at risk.

Roughly 30% of the population of the US is 55+ with 16% being 65+.

Roughly 40% of the US population is obese (BMI over 40).

The American Heart Association estimates that 48% of adults in the US have some form of heart disease.

Roughly 10% of the US population has diabetes.

Roughly 10% of the US population has some form of cancer.

etc., etc., etc.

To think that only one half of one percent of the US population is high risk is absurd. The virus may kill only that amount of people but the high risk group is much more vast than that amount, don't kid yourself.