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re: Can someone refresh me on why Landon Jackson flipped from LSU to Arkansas?

Posted on 12/5/23 at 4:43 pm to
Posted by caliegeaux
Member since Aug 2004
10166 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 4:43 pm to
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Unlike the hundred million dollar man, this coach won a National Championship



and unlike the 17 million dollar jolt energy man, the hundred million dollar man walked into a disaster. give it time son. its 2 year in a massive rebuild.
Posted by TexasTiger27
San Marcos Tx
Member since Sep 2016
386 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 4:51 pm to
I watched him play at Arkansas this year for 3 games. Never saw him even get close to a ball carrier. Glad he left LSU. He came hurt out of his, he used our sports medicine and facilities to get well and left before he got on the field. Don't see how he made second string anything must have just thrown Arky a bone. NOT A BEAST!
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26831 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 4:54 pm to
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Homesick
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Lol. Do you know where Texarkana is? BR is almost as close.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26831 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 4:57 pm to
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Apparently, he was not going to see much playing time.
Another poor judge of talent by our defense BrainTrust.



Transferred out before Kelly was hired. Had a massive injury in high school and was never healthy at LSU.
Posted by Tiger Roux
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
4938 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 5:04 pm to
[quote]Another 10 win Season incoming thanks to the Brian Trust

The defensive coaches had nothing to do with those wins.
Posted by Sterling Archer
Austin
Member since Aug 2012
7325 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 5:17 pm to
Imagine our defense with him and Dwight McGlothern (#1 rated CB in all CFB via PFF). Might have one less loss
Posted by SwampyWaters
Member since Apr 2023
1365 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 5:30 pm to
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watching him Sack Milroe 2-3 times and then watching our defense not come close 1 month later made me really sad


This is exactly why I think we need an entirely new defensive staff. Can anyone name one defensive player in the last two years that has steadily improved?

I can't name one! I think even Perkins took a step back this year. LSU has a history of having elite defenses over the years and to think we are now one of the worst in D1 football is just sickening and not acceptable!
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
7329 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 5:42 pm to
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caliegeaux


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2 year in a massive rebuild.


Oh please, y'all gonna be crying for 5 fricking years talking about rebuild and shite. There will be kids come in and graduate and y'all still gonna be crying about rebuilds

If Kelly was worth the money, next year would be his year.

And this kid left AFTER O was canned, and you still blamed it on him.
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23327 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:17 pm to
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Another poor judge of talent by our defense BrainTrust.


He was gone before the current staff was even assembled, idiot. He was rehabbing from injury most of his freshman season in 21.
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23327 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:20 pm to
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Unlike the hundred million dollar man, this coach won a National Championship


fricking O nutlickers still abound. This fricking fanbase.
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
7329 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:38 pm to
Somebody else brought him up to bash him, even though this kid left AFTER Orgeron was fired.

Also, how long are the Brian Kelly dickriders going to use O as an excuse?

You think Bama was loaded with talent when Saban took over for a fired Mike Shula?
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26831 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 7:06 pm to
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You think Bama was loaded with talent when Saban took over for a fired Mike Shula?


Not sure. Ask ULM.
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23327 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 8:09 pm to
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Also, how long are the Brian Kelly dickriders going to use O as an excuse?


You can frick right off with this casual bullshite. Shula didn’t leave the cupboard completely bare and 25-30 men short of a full compliment of scholarship players. Saban needed just one class and a better strength and conditioning program to win the SEC.

We’ve had to portal two entire secondaries, multiple LBs, a few OL and start two true freshman OL and several TEs in 22 and 23 because of O’s two years of nothing but lazy, incompetent bullshite. fricking hell you idiots are blind to the end.
This post was edited on 12/5/23 at 8:10 pm
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57271 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 8:41 pm to
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BK wax hired on 12/30/21
Jackson announced transfer in 12/12/21
House was hired on 12/28/21


House was hired before Kelly?
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57271 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 8:45 pm to
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The defensive coaches had nothing to do with those wins.


Did you watch the second half, particularly the 4th quarter, of the TAM game? I'm not excusing this defense, but they did make some plays when needed.
Posted by vidtiger23
Member since Feb 2012
4835 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 8:55 pm to
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You think Bama was loaded with talent when Saban took over for a fired Mike Shula?

He actually did inherit a decent amount of talent off of that team. But we’re also comparing the GOAT. Of course the situations will be slightly different.
This post was edited on 12/5/23 at 8:59 pm
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36065 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 8:57 pm to
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House was hired before Kelly?


Typo

I’ll fix it. 11/30/21
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
7329 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:14 pm to
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You can frick right off with this casual bullshite. Shula didn’t leave the cupboard completely bare


You think Shula's last mediocre team was brimming with fricking 5 stars? Really? Are you that damned stupid? You think Saban just walked right on in with a loaded roster and lost to ULM?

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Shula didn’t leave the cupboard completely bare and 25-30 men short of a full compliment of scholarship players.


Name me these 25-30 men that left the team BEFORE Orgeron was fired.

Also, several players skipped the KSU bowl game, they were leaving early for the pros.

Shula also didn't leave in the time of no consequence transfer portals either. Players had to sit for a whole year.

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start two true freshman OL

Both recruited by Ed O, along with Mason Taylor and several other contributors.

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fricking hell you idiots are blind to the end.


Y'all want to believe in a narrative that just isn't as true as y'all want it to be.
This post was edited on 12/5/23 at 9:21 pm
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23327 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:46 pm to
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Name me these 25-30 men that left the team BEFORE Orgeron was fired.


What the frick are you babbling about You just keep proving how casual you are.

I’m not even going with the “39 scholarship players in the bowl game” narrative here because I know several players sat out. But that said, look at what came immediately after. We took only 15 commits in the 2022 class, because O fricking tanked it even before he got himself fired. The fact that you give him credit for anyone in that class that had to be salvaged at the last second is fricking laughable. It included two legacies, one of who you tried to credit O with getting here. Give me a fricking break.

But then we took 15 more portal players and elevated 2 or 3 walk-ons. That’s over 30 replacement players in one class. And WE STILL DIDN’T HAVE A FULL 80 MAN SCHOLARSHIP ROSTER in 2022 You do understand this, right?

As for Shula, calm the frick down. I never said he left the team stocked with 5 stars. But they were not devoid of talent. He was just a below average coach who ran a mediocre program. That 08 Bama team that won the West without the benefit of the portal and with only one full recruiting class still had several senior starters left from over from Shula. And they sure as hell had 80 guys and a roster that wasn’t completely gutted like ours was.
This post was edited on 12/5/23 at 9:55 pm
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
7329 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 10:45 pm to
If there is a mass exodus of players from a team after a coach is fired, how is it that coach's fault?

That is college football in 2023. There are daily threads in the Rant inquiring if we should go after players in the portal, or keeping an eye on the roster of a division for who just fired their coach to see if any talent players are leaving.

Players are recruited by position coaches who now don't know if they'll have a job or not.

Same for incoming recruits, if they're on the fence between two universities, they more than likely will choose the program with stability and not one where everyone they've been in contact with might not be retained.

Look, O had some issues and had to deal with externalities that he struggled with. But to keep perpetuating this myth that there was no talent here for reasons beyond O's control is nothing more then excusing BK.
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