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re: Can everyone on this board agree with this statement?

Posted on 12/27/24 at 11:29 pm to
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
61281 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 11:29 pm to
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He has made mistakes in hiring, but he has corrected that.


Promoting Sloan and Hankton instead of hiring an elite OC was a big mistake.
Posted by QB
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2013
5904 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 11:33 pm to
agreed
there will be a whole lot of very pissed off people in LA if Nuss has to sit out the entire off season nursing an ACL knee injury/operation and not be at full strength come opening day against Clemson, and maybe even half the season. No offseason work with new receivers.
Nothing to gain playing Nuss in this bowl game and literally everything to lose. I hope he comes up with a 'tweaked' ankle injury just prior to the game myself.
Posted by Red Stick Tigress
Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2005
18899 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 11:39 pm to
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Wether


Silent h.
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
14733 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 11:54 pm to
His main job is to accumulate the talent, and I am satisfied with the way things are going so far in this off season. Coaching was not the main problem last year (most of the time). It was inferior talent at important positions.
Posted by Flyingtiger82
BFE
Member since Oct 2019
1306 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 12:07 am to
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But you can bet your arse some people on here will find a way to spin a positive Kelly narrative even if he goes 6-6 next year


They’re posi-tigers. They feast and thrive upon mediocrity. They abhorred the 2019 season and do not claim the man known as Burrow. Their motto is “next year is our year”. They are a cancer and a scourge upon LSU Football. They held us back from having winning seasons. They were born during the McClendon days. They coerced the BOS in getting Stovall hired after the Rein tragedy. They refused to pay Arnsparger to stay, and gave us Archer. They were content to lose to Nebraska in an Orange Bowl and Two Sugars. They had the ear of the BOS to bring us Hallman. They wanted DiNardo to stay because they too were “crazy bout a Ford Truck”. They did their best to run Saban Off to bring us the poster child of status quo Leslie Dumbass Miles. Now their claws are sunk into Brian Kelly. They are the facilitators of mediocrity.
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
19035 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 12:09 am to
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Wether you’re BK Ryder or Anti BK


Never say this shite. Too similar to the whole “whether you’re a republican or a democrat we all can agree..:” shtick.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47404 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 1:22 am to
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But you can bet your arse some people on here will find a way to spin a positive Kelly narrative even if he goes 6-6 next year


No one would defend a 6-6 2025 season unless Nuss went down. Thinking Kelly shouldn't be fired after winning the west in year 1, winning 10 games and finishing 12th in the country in year 2, and possible 9 wins and top 25 in year 3.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
14364 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 1:53 am to
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But you can bet your arse some people on here will find a way to spin a positive Kelly narrative even if he goes 6-6 next year


No they won’t. Nobody is spinning any “positive narrative” about this season. There would be ZERO excuse for going 6-6 next year and if he does, he should be fired immediately and I’d bet you 99.9% of the board would agree.


Maybe if Nuss gets injured in the season opener and can’t come back the rest of the season. That MIGHT (and even then it would be pushing it) be an excuse for going 6-6 next year.
This post was edited on 12/28/24 at 1:56 am
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
28036 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 2:07 am to
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2025 - #1 portal class, #7 HS recruiting class
2024 - #43 portal class, #7 HS recruiting class
2023 - #4 portal class, #5 HS recruiting class
2022 - #3 portal class, #12 HS recruiting class

The 2022 class had 16 players, and the vast majority left and almost everybody else is off the team. The portal guys for that year gave us a SEC West title year one, and 10 wins in year two, but they are gone too. Been gone.

The 2023 team is almost non-existent, as 63% of that class has transferred. And of the top 10, only 3 are still here (only 6 of the top 20). Of the remaining players from that class, 80% have done almost nothing. Chester has a year and Stamps has 2 years.


If you want to talk starting vets, guys that have played, like really really played, AT LSU, for AT LEAST A YEAR, this is your list

Offense
Nuss, Durham, Anderson, Hilton, Chester

Defense
Perkins, Whit and West Weeks, McKinley, Breaux, Stamps, Gilbert

You have guys who have touched grass in Mubenga, Adams, Bordelon, Parker, Green, Guillory, Washington, Carpenter, Woodland, and several other defensive freshman, but that is not true 6+ game starting experience. I even hesistated to put guys like West Weeks and Hilton in the top group, but West accumulated enough over two years here and WVU, and Hilton has at least played in many games for 4 years.

Essentially we have 12 truly experienced guys coming back plus portal guys with much starting experience. Guys like Tyree Adams, Mubenga, Green, Guillory, and Woodland (maybe Carpenter) will be relied on heavily, the rest will be for depth.

LSU will need more help with last year's freshman and this year's freshman to fill out the backups AND the starters even.
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The Pirate King
Oh yeah it's the resident Ed O apologist and Kelly hater. The fact that you are on the recruiting board and in those threads and still saying shite like this proves you just have an agenda against Kelly.
Posted by BowDownToLSU
Livingston louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
20336 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 5:49 am to
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But you can bet your arse some people on here will find a way to spin a positive Kelly narrative even if he goes 6-6 next year
this. Some will still blame O
Posted by KWL85
Member since Mar 2023
2235 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 8:40 am to
Good thought process, but you cut us short. I would consider more guys as vets than you. Guys like Guillory, Washington,Gilbert, Woodland,Green, Kaleb Jackson, Zavion Thomas should be considered vets now. I don't know snap counts but they have been around and have played in a good number of games. I also think we should consider some of the incoming portal guys as vets, even though they gained their experience elsewhere.

I like your post and think it deserves consideration and discussion. Not trying to bash you with my take. Your post would make for a good thread for discussion.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
61281 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 10:24 am to
Nearly all of the excuses you're giving are on Kelly he doesn't get a pass because he doesn't evaluate, retain, and develop players from his recruiting/portal classes well.

The point of the OP is that the talent level is there and that's no longer an excuse, which it's not. If there's issues with talent development or evaluation, again that falls on Kelly and the assistants he hired.

If he can't rebuild a playoff competitive roster in four full recruiting cycles of HS & portal, it's never going to happen. There are schools with much less resources and history that are in the playoffs this year.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
27934 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 10:29 am to
This post should be anchored. I’ll bookmark it.
Idiots on here refuse to acknowledge the issues in college football and limitations it had on LSU starting with the Louisiana law in 2021-2022 on NIL. Then there was the unlimited transfers all happened since 2021. All of this happened when Kelly came to LSU. We FINALLY have a way to funnel money from TAF, which has been an issue with most idiots on here and get points for Traditions fund donations. The small amount people give adds up quick. 120/year by 200000 fans = 24MM. LSU has more fans than that. Donating that directly to football would be an unreal game changer when added to larger donations. That’s 10/month or 1 less visit to Starbucks.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
27934 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 10:31 am to
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Nearly all of the excuses you're giving are on Kelly he doesn't get a pass because he doesn't evaluate, retain, and develop players from his recruiting/portal classes well.
or they were being picked off by agents. He is as good or better developer of talent as any coach in LSUs history. Go look at his teams where he has had his upperclassmen.

This is a PORTAL AND NIL DAY frickING IDIOT. ALL CAMR ABOUT SINCE 2021 and until this summer LSU wasn’t playing on an equal field with funding from TAF to traditions.

YOU WERE frickING OWNED
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
61281 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 10:34 am to
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Idiots on here refuse to acknowledge the issues in college football


That every coach has to deal with.

quote:

We FINALLY have a way to funnel money


And since the donation uptick, we have paid the portal and recruiting players to come in to add talented starter-level players.

Like the OP said, talent is no longer an issue.
Posted by floridatiger2
Member since Sep 2006
600 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 11:57 am to
No! Go sleep it off!
Posted by SA4LSU
AZ
Member since Sep 2005
4538 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 12:08 pm to
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We really are a few injuries away from having several depleted position groups but that goes for every team in the country now.


One of the bi-products of the portal and the reason Saban retired. None of these kids are going to “pay their dues and wait their turn” are you kidding me, I’m not starting, I’m off to the portal and even some of those that ARE starting are off to the portal to the highest bidder.
Posted by Borntoboogy
Member since Jan 2023
745 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 12:57 pm to
It doesn't matter hehas an iron clad 10 yr 100 mil contract. He will retire a Tiger head coach.
Posted by Nite game
Member since Dec 2015
347 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 2:56 pm to
Reality…..Win or Lose everyone gets paid! There is no more pride or honor, it’s just Money! ??
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
13236 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 3:00 pm to
Why would anyone disagree? Those were BK's words. "Judge me in my third year".

What statement has he made that was credible"
We are going to put a hurt on Fla State, was his first guarantee.
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