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re: Cam on noticeable changes this year

Posted on 4/2/16 at 1:29 pm to
Posted by geauxtigahs87
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Posted on 4/2/16 at 1:29 pm to
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Just because BH is black and can run, that doesn't make him JJ.

Wow, that's what you took away from my post?
Posted by beauchristopher
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Posted on 4/2/16 at 1:35 pm to


Posted by Guava Jelly
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Posted on 4/2/16 at 1:36 pm to
I'm not making it a racism thing. Just pointing out that those are pretty much the only ways in which the two are similar so the comparison makes no sense.

And you missed the meat of the post. JJ is a huge exception. The vast majority of the time, guys who are solid as sophomores (BH was) get better as juniors.
This post was edited on 4/2/16 at 1:39 pm
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 4/2/16 at 1:44 pm to
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Our walk-throughs at one time were 65-70 percent run and 30-35 percent pass.


Jesus Les
Posted by tFearIsReal
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Posted on 4/2/16 at 1:46 pm to
It's better to hear stuff like this than rad about how bad our basketball and baseball team suck.
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 4/2/16 at 1:48 pm to
so one guy is racist for comparing two players that share no similar traits, but the other guy does something similar since it agrees with your narrative he gets it.

Look from what I saw, Etling has a much better understanding of the offense and can complete the drive sustaining intermediate routes that harris still struggles with. Harris hits a beauty deep ball, but then a series later can't connect on a ball out of the backfield with to a wide open Fournette. That's harris in a nutshell
Posted by Guava Jelly
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Posted on 4/2/16 at 2:04 pm to
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so one guy is racist for comparing two players that share no similar traits, but the other guy does something similar since it agrees with your narrative he gets it.

Who said he was racist? I actually qualified the statement that I was not making it a racism thing. Don't try to derail the discussion by focusing on that sentence.

And it's not my narrative. It's reality. Obviously I've see you post here before, so I know you watch college football. You can't honestly tell me that quarterbacks who regress from one year to the next are not an exception.

Mett is the most recent example we have at LSU. There's no reason to assume BH will regress based on one example of a guy who hasn't been here in four years.

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Look from what I saw, Etling has a much better understanding of the offense and can complete the drive sustaining intermediate routes that harris still struggles with.

I'm sure Etling has a fine grasp of the offense. Seems to be a bright kid and he has had a season to digest the playbook. But a lot of guys who are smart and get it and are great in practice can't get it done in SEC play.

We're less than three months out from the last time we saw this team play. Did you really expect Harris to magically find his intermediate ball in that time? The summer is where these guys hone their craft and get better.


Just saying Etling should have to do more than hit a shallow curl and know the playbook before you anoint him the starter.
This post was edited on 4/2/16 at 2:06 pm
Posted by emanresu
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 4/2/16 at 2:18 pm to
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Harris is on his 3rd season and should definitely improve like Mett did in his 3rd season.

Going into his 3rd season (senior season) here, Mett already had 2 seasons as a starter, (one here his junior year, and one at a community college), and he had two guys who would shortly become 2 of the best receivers in the NFL. Neither is the case for Harris. He'll be better, sure, but not the jump Mett had from his junior to senior year.
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 4/2/16 at 2:22 pm to
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Just saying Etling should have to do more than hit a shallow curl and know the playbook before you anoint him the starter.


Perhaps but its not as if Harris deserves to be the unquestioned starter.

Again, this is my opinion but Etling seems to be a better fit to do the things Cam and Les want from their QB in this system. Harris for sure has the higher potential, but I'm starting to believe he lacks a few other things to hone those skills. We'll see
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 4/2/16 at 2:39 pm to
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I really don't know why people don't believe Harris will be better. Even if our scheme stayed the same passing would improve based solely on his experience.


because those same people already have their eyes turned to a brand new backup QB. Our best QB has started about 20 games the past 8 years.
Posted by Guava Jelly
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Posted on 4/2/16 at 2:40 pm to
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Perhaps but its not as if Harris deserves to be the unquestioned starter

Absolutely no doubt about that. There needs to be healthy competition at all positions. Youre right. We'll see how it plays out. But I think we should give them the summer before we jump to any conclusions. We haven't even seen DE take any live snaps yet
Posted by Phil2012
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Posted on 4/2/16 at 2:43 pm to
Why some idiots try to compare Mett with Bh is a mystery...they are totally different players from totally different molds and background...lol lol maybe one day they will learn something about football...or, not...
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
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Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 4/2/16 at 2:43 pm to
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I know he's (Miles) tweaked our practice schedule some, tweaked our walk-throughs. Our walk-throughs at one time were 65-70 percent run and 30-35 percent pass.


My jaw literally hit the floor when I read this.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
22701 posts
Posted on 4/2/16 at 2:46 pm to
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So basically our top recruiting classes are a fraud. Except for the running backs.



the spread starts with the read option. I cant think of many teams that dont base their spread off the read. Needs to be read/executed properly by QB. Blocking at the line is going to be a good bit different as well, due to QB options.

Point is, I don't think its a matter of if a WR can catch a screen pass and run faster than the defense.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 4/2/16 at 2:49 pm to
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beauchristopher



Difference is, if you disaggregate the stats, Mett got better as the season went on whereas Harris got worse. I do think Harris will be improved, but I just hate this myopic argument.
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
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Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 4/2/16 at 2:49 pm to
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Why some idiots try to compare Mett with Bh is a mystery...they are totally different players from totally different molds and background...lol lol maybe one day they will learn something about football...or, not...




This x100000

Mett had Hill, OBJ, and Juice.

Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
22701 posts
Posted on 4/2/16 at 2:52 pm to
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Mett had Hill, OBJ, and Juice.



Ummm, Harris has arguably the best player to ever come through LSU, along with 2 5* WR's from NOLA. Let's revisit this argument in 5-10 years.

Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
72321 posts
Posted on 4/2/16 at 2:53 pm to
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Will there be elements of the spread offense? "We've always had those elements. You saw them, you go back and watch our first seven games. The Auburn game, the Ole Miss game, Brandon is running up and down the sideline running plays out of the spread. Obviously we had a week that didn't work out well and didn't rebound well from it. Everything tends to get viewed from a small portion of the season. I get that. What we've got to do is execute those elements of our offense against very good defenses."


Doesn't sound like much change. Again, they just want to focus on the execution of what they already have.
Posted by Phil2012
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Posted on 4/2/16 at 3:05 pm to
I personally think they chose the word "noticeable" for a reason...and I expect to notice it...and I think that the receivers coach had something to do with it...jmho
Posted by Guava Jelly
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Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 4/2/16 at 3:05 pm to
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Why some idiots try to compare Mett with Bh is a mystery...


The comparison isn't about them as players. It's about the fact that they had statistically similar seasons. But the perception is that one sucked while the other was amazing.

It's also a statement to the fact that if BH builds upon that solid season (even if it's not leaps and bounds) he (and the team) will be good next year.
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