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re: Cam Cameron in top 20 for best 3rd down percentage play calling - from Dandy

Posted on 7/6/16 at 10:41 am to
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9128 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 10:41 am to
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they seem to put together competent offenses most of the time.


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Can you name one outside Bama that hasn't had a bad offensive year in the time frame mentioned?


Setting up the straw man.
This post was edited on 7/6/16 at 10:42 am
Posted by tlsu15
Capital of Texas
Member since Aug 2011
10541 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 10:53 am to
Will Aranda coach from the sideline too?

If so, who goes up in the box for the defense? BDP?
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 11:01 am to
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The nine schools on this list that return their play-caller and starting QB in 2016 include Georgia Tech, Marshall, Oklahoma, Texas Tech, Auburn, Tulsa Colorado State, Florida State and Air Force.


Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89772 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 11:41 am to
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highest paid coaching staff 


Not true
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89772 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 11:44 am to
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can't have a borderline NFL qb and two all-pro NFL receivers every year


Yeap and the guy everyone wanted looks like a much shittier coach when he doesn't have the #1 pick at qb, go figure.
Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
56556 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 11:45 am to
Go back to your gaming board nerd
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
79569 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 11:55 am to
snap
Posted by koLSU86
Member since Aug 2012
4166 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:03 pm to
That's why I said most of the time....
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48276 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:04 pm to
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Chik Fil a Bowl
Music City Bowl
Texas Bowl

with top recruiting classes every year
and
highest paid coaching staff

So yea, we're a lil sour.



2 top recruiting classes.

Let me guess youre one of those posters that loves to tout how strong and deep the sec west and sec is and then gets mad when lsu loses 5 games with a bunch of true freshmen.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48276 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:08 pm to
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can't have a borderline NFL qb and


Yeah our staff turned him into the qb he is or did you just forget his 2012 season?

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two all-pro NFL receive


Landry hasnt come close to having an all pro season and
The highest OBJr has made is 1 all pro second team.

But hey dont let facts get in the way of you shitting on lsu.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48276 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:10 pm to
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Yeap and the guy everyone wanted looks like a much shittier coach when he doesn't have the #1 pick at qb, go figure.


Exaclty. That great Jimbo lost as many games as the average Miles did last year and he plays in the fricking acc. The worst conf in cfb.
Posted by Chris Warner
Perdido Bay
Member since Jan 2009
5575 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:28 pm to
Negatigers uniting
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
22941 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:28 pm to
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More catastrophe syndrome


Yep, and you can throw in the blame game as well. Despite what so many fans think, there is never just one deciding factor when something goes wrong or right. It's usually several contributing factors like starting a true sophomore under center, an OC who coached weeks at a time from an iPad while he under went treatments for prostate cancer, sports hernia to the starting QB on the back end of the season & an injury to the starting fullback around midseason. The blame game in the direction of the coaches is always the easy route. It takes more rationale to actually pinpoint more exact & accurate reasonings which many are too lazy to do.
Posted by TigerTreyjpg
Monroe, LA
Member since Jun 2008
5815 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:43 pm to
That's the first thought that came to my mind.

It seemed like no matter how far they had to go to get a first, as long as Mett wasn't sacked AND had he had a minimal amount of time to set his feet/make a few quick downfield read, the following sequence of events would take place:

1. Mett drops back
2. Mett looks downfield
3. Ball is thrown downfield, and delivered somewhere in the general vicinity of 80 or 3.
4. The ball would be caught.
5. A fresh set of downs showed up.

It was almost like (and this is from a Miles supporter) Miles intentionally handicapped the offense on first and second down just to enjoy watching Mett/80/3 make otherwise impossible looking situations look routine.

I really did starting looking at 3rd and long as a blessing because I came to almost expect conversion.

Was kinda like when JM was QB. Anytime he avoided a rush, got outside the pocket, and in doing that give himself a month and a year to look downfield, a LONG completion was about to happen. DB's couldn't cover folks THAT long, and because of Russell's arm strength, it didn't matter where the receiver finally cleared, because JM could get the ball QUICKLY to where ever that happened to be.

Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
29313 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:44 pm to
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Amazing that regardless of the positive news there's always a flood of negative posts like flies to feces.


This isn't positive news. Anybody that watches LSU routinely knows that is all from 2012. You know, the season with an NFL QB, an NFL starting RB with almost 2000 yards and 20 TDs in 2 years, 2 Pro Bowl WRs; one with 280 receptions over 1900 yards and 10 TDs, and one with 290 receptions over 2750 yards and 25 TDs in only 2 years, an All Pro guard, and the most impressive rookie offensive lineman last year.

LSU has been 63rd (2016) and 71st (2015) in 3rd down conversion %.

I mean I'd rather it not require a gang of top NFL players just to have an efficent offense at LSU.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55508 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:56 pm to
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What was the percentage of 3rd down conversions in losses?


Well, you'd have to compare that to other teams' % in losses, right?
Posted by Tigers_Saints
Member since Jun 2016
949 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:19 pm to
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Yes (at least to start the year Not sure how we finished


Believe we finished #1 with the highest % since Andrew Luck
Posted by Tigers_Saints
Member since Jun 2016
949 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:23 pm to
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and the most impressive rookie offensive lineman last year.


He had flashes and some nice highlights, but he was far from the best rookie offensive lineman last season

I'd say Sherff was better at G alone
This post was edited on 7/6/16 at 1:25 pm
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10479 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:35 pm to
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LSU has been 63rd (2016) and 71st (2015) in 3rd down conversion %.
Oh, it's the old "if you throw out the 3 80yd TDs it's a meh performance" arguement.
I didn't pick the timeframe, so I guess you should research 3rd% for only last 2 years, or maybe throw out best of the 3 seasons for each of these coaches and write your own blog post.
Posted by Tigers_Saints
Member since Jun 2016
949 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:41 pm to
Not to mention that offense finished 61st in 3rd down % in 2012 with the same QB, RB, WRs, etc.

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LSU has been 63rd (2016) and 71st (2015) in 3rd down conversion %.


What year do you think it is?
This post was edited on 7/6/16 at 1:43 pm
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