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re: Burrow - "They came out in a defense that we haven’t seen from them all year"

Posted on 10/27/19 at 1:19 pm to
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 10/27/19 at 1:19 pm to
Maybe, but don't believe they have the personnel to mirror Auburn's
Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Posted on 10/27/19 at 1:36 pm to
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That said, the offense still played a very good game, despite the play calling.



FIFY
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 10/27/19 at 1:47 pm to
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But it's pretty well known that a sloppy field hurts the offense more. Anyone who has played the game will tell you that

It hurts ball security, but other than that it helps the offense. It’s much harder on the DBs than the WRs because the DBs don’t know where they’re going.
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20557 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 1:58 pm to
That type of reasoning is so stupid. That door swings both ways and Auburn fans could easily say the same thing with the coulda woulda shoulda.
Posted by msbargas
Ponte vedra beach FL
Member since Sep 2009
727 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 2:49 pm to
Of course they played on the same field.

His point was that a sloppy field is a great equalizer.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
42114 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 2:57 pm to
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Expect more of the same from Alabama


Bama doesn’t have Barner’s front 7. No doubt Saban will game plan something based off what they saw but doubt it’s that.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 10/27/19 at 2:58 pm to
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What was the blown whistle?
probably referring to CEH being blown down on progress (with legs still going and vertical) as compared to Nix being stopped on forward progress and laying on a pile with no whistle.

Which I agree with him... if that's what he's referring to.

However, Chase getting caught from behind and this play are the same series, that's not two TDs... just one.
Posted by Tigers eyes
Member since Nov 2018
2649 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 3:16 pm to
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"They came out in a defense that we haven’t seen from them all year and we hadn’t seen from anyone else."

That's why you need smart coaches who can make adjustments on the fly to combat these type situations. Experiences like this only make you better. I don't think there's anything bama can do that this offense hasn't seen. So what ever defense they come out with Brady will know how to attack it. But that playing conservative like LSU did late in the game yesterday is something they cannot afford to do against bama. Because AU didn't have the offense to catch back up, bama does. The play calling yesterday was more like the Miles years. I mean, if you can't trust the best QB in college football to make throws late in the game then you have a problem. IDK what the deal with that was.
Posted by msbargas
Ponte vedra beach FL
Member since Sep 2009
727 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 3:30 pm to
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The play calling yesterday was more like the Miles years. I mean, if you can't trust the best QB in college football to make throws late in the game then you have a problem. IDK what the deal with that was


I agree that it brought back memories of the Miles era.

Maybe it was the sloppy wet field which caused some frustration.
They got away with the conservative play calling because the defense was playing exceptionally well for the most part.
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
4913 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 3:36 pm to
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They got away with the conservative play calling because the defense was playing exceptionally well for the most part

They called the end of the game conservatively because the defense was playing exceptionally well. Then when DBs went down and AU scored a TD, they had an opportunity to clock it & did.

FIFY
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104802 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 4:23 pm to
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Yeah, and it made us look like LSU from last year,
315 passing yrds?
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
17777 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 6:47 pm to
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Yeah, and it made us look like LSU from last year,
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315 passing yrds?
yeah, 'looks like last year' is a mis-characterization.

For whatever reason (reads, real, or imagined) we played to the strength of their defense in the redzone. I do NOT believe it was 'conservatism'. I do think alot of it was reads and AU was disguising beautifully to get us to do that. Some of it was that we had too much success in the middle of the field the 'if it's working, keep doing it' mentality took over. I'll chalk this one up to a learning lesson.

The biggest lesson is: Even if the read says run into their teeth & strength, don't. That is called a 'mis-read'.
Posted by alumni95
Member since Jun 2004
7592 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 6:55 pm to
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In those conditions against that defense, Burrow was a great game manager. It will go unnoticed nationally, but his play against AU was one of his best performances this year.

Dude got popped in the mouth & bounced back again & again.


Burrow was masterful moving around in the pocket to buy more time or made the right decision to check out and run +90% of that game. He held it too long only once or twice and credit AU for making us pay for that.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 10/27/19 at 7:01 pm to
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In those conditions against that defense, Burrow was a great game manager
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Dude got popped in the mouth & bounced back again & again
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Burrow was masterful moving around in the pocket to buy more time or made the right decision to check out and run
from what I've seen in the media, Burrow is only getting positive responses.

I think the assumption that this game hurt his Heisman chances is wrong. Add to that OU lost, Tua didn't play, Taylor and Wisky just sucked... in comparison Burrow willing LSU to a top-10 victory with arm and legs.

Yes, we're supposed to play better than that, even against what might be the toughest D we'll face until Clemson in the playoffs. But 'scrappiness' is winning over 'stats', at least right now.
Posted by alumni95
Member since Jun 2004
7592 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 7:07 pm to
Why would anyone be implying the Auburn game hurt Burrow’s Heisman chances?

He was 75% accurate, threw for 320+.

We scored only 23 and beat a Top 10 team? Oh the horror.

He threw 1 INT? So he’s human after all. And humans still win the Heisman.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
17777 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 7:29 pm to
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Why would anyone be implying the Auburn game hurt Burrow’s Heisman chances?
There were several thinking that due to below avg stats and points.

I was NOT saying you, or I, thought that. Just pointing out that I was on the lookout for such statements in the post-game coverage and didn't really see it.

You seem to be reacting as if I'm saying such things... just the opposite. Oh the horror... I'm pointing out no one that matters is saying it. Just some people who don't matter.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
14367 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 7:44 pm to
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It hurts ball security, but other than that it helps the offense. It’s much harder on the DBs than the WRs because the DBs don’t know where they’re going.


Yes but it also means WRs can’t make their cuts to run the routes they normally would. Also makes it harder on QBs to throw accurately and for receivers to catch it. It greatly limits the passing game and that is without question our strength.
Posted by Folsom
Folsom
Member since Mar 2006
3456 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 7:51 pm to
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It wasn't good. As others have said, we needed to spread them out horizontally.


Is Ensminger taking back control of the offense?
Posted by alumni95
Member since Jun 2004
7592 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 8:19 pm to
No, I think it’s ridiculous that anyone would imply that Burrow or LSU had a ‘bad game’ against a Top 10 team.

Burrow threw for 300+ at 75% accuracy. That is nowhere close to ‘average.’ Anyone who thinks so is an absolute fool.
Posted by LAD
New Iberia
Member since Feb 2016
1338 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 8:23 pm to
No, Gary Danielson says that “Enzinger” is.
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