re: Bruce Feldman with high praise of Miles

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In fact, the only reason Miles is able to do what he does is because of the foundation Saban set. Will be forever grateful

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you don't know that. miles might have taken a little longer but i think he would have done it. no knock on saban at all but to say he is the savior and the only reason lsu is any good and miles is any good is because of him is utter bull shite. and, as far as the foundation goes, gerry dinardo layed that.

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you don't know that.

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you're an idiot if you cant see that.

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but to say he is the savior and the only reason lsu is any good and miles is any good is because of him is utter bull shite

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i didnt say he is the reason miles is any good. I said the reason Miles is even talked about as a great coach is because of the situation Saban left him. He should be grateful. Otherwise he'd still be eating grass and making questionable coaching moves at OSU where no one would even see or care.

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Saban has never made stupid decisions to cost his teams games like Miles has vs Ole Miss and Tenn.

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allowing a WR to get behind your defense with 6 seconds left in the game against Iowa was pretty frickin' stupid....especially for a defensive guru

that's on the player

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You will NEVER hear that from a Saban underling.


I know somebody who played for Saban at Mich St and he adores him.

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Some LSU players have said the same things, Bradie James comes to mind, but the player coach relationship is very different than the HC/Assistant coach aka boss/underling relationship in college. Once a player finishes his eligibility, the relationship changes. Even the hardest coaches can become friends with former players, kids they recruited at 17/18 after they've grown and moved on. Its different for assistants, that are already grown. Clearly working for Saban has helped several coaches, look at all his former assistants that are now HC (Fisher, Muschamp, Dooley). But I do think its telling that they all seem to have no or a frosty relationship with him.

I have heard the same story about is assistants at MSU that all opted to stay with Bobby Williams after Saban left.

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as resurrected 2 programs that are now 2 of the best in the nation.

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Bama won 10 games just 2 years before he got there, they had one mediocre season before him and one his first year. Hardly a program in need of resurrection.

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In fact, the only reason Miles is able to do what he does is because of the foundation Saban set. Will be forever grateful

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And Saban was only able to do what he did at LSU, because Emmert and others started pouring funds into the program and La has a shitload of talent that he was able to recruit. There's a reason he left MSU, its because he knew he could accomplish more at a place like LSU.
It doesn't really matter if Miles could have rebuilt LSU, we didn't need that in 2005.

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that's on the player

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I see, frick ups at the end of games with Miles are his fault, frick ups at the end of Saban games are the players fault.

I'm sure it was Ingram's fault that they blew a 24 point lead to Auburn. And Andre Smith's fault that they lost to Utah and McElroy's fault they lost to USCe?

Saban is a great coach, no one is denying that, but Miles is doing a great job here. Every coach loses games and makes bad calls sometimes. We blow the OM game out of proportion because it happened to LSU.

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just wait til we get Larry Porter back from Memphis!

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After last week's result against Arkansas State, that may be sooner than you think. I'd put money on him being back in Purple and Gold before this season's bowl games.

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Miles came in and was on fire the first few years. He won alot of big games. The last 3 years we haven't won any big games with Title (SEC West, SEC) implications. We even had a chance to go to the Sugar Bowl and we blew that last year too. This is a big year for Les

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Yeah. You're right. That Bama win last year wasn't a big deal or anything.

It's a shame that a positive post regarding Miles has to get into a Saban debate.

Where LSU is right now, I'll take Miles any day.

Les Miles has the recruits now. This LSU football season is coming together very well and Nick Saban can not steel any credit for this group of LSU football players. The unbelieving have no where to deny the obvious. Are these LSU guys good college football players or what?

Saban lost to LSU last year with a better backfield then this year, I doubt if his defense is that much better this year. For argument sake lets say that he does have a better defense then last year. I think Saban now is only one ballgame away from losing the superior coach mantle to Les Miles and LSU. If and when Miles beats him again this year Saban will indeed be second best.

There is one undeniable fact about Les Miles coaching ability. The football players on his team love to play for him and they give him their best effort on the field. They are very inspired and now as it turns out, Les Miles is a very very good recruiter.

The formula to wining football games in college is very simple: Recruit the best players, inspire them to play hard. Les Miles meets both of those criteria. So whose kidding who?