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re: Brian Kelly: "We are not the football team I thought we were. This is a total failure."

Posted on 9/4/23 at 12:07 pm to
Posted by TRUERockyTop
Appalachia
Member since Sep 2011
16796 posts
Posted on 9/4/23 at 12:07 pm to
So it's development and coaching?
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
37751 posts
Posted on 9/4/23 at 12:12 pm to
I’ve heard different things honestly. But what’s important is that he’s not here. So either lsu tried hard to get him and didn’t. Or didn’t try hard enough.

It’s semantics really. The point is if there is this huge talent gap between fsu and lsu, it’s the coaches fault

FSU is not a team that should out talent lsu except on a rare occasion.
This post was edited on 9/4/23 at 12:16 pm
Posted by oe812
Member since Feb 2015
6 posts
Posted on 9/4/23 at 12:14 pm to
The coach even admits the team isn't good. LMAO
Posted by BayouBuckwheat87
in a van down by the river
Member since Jun 2023
1379 posts
Posted on 9/4/23 at 12:16 pm to
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But , JD is not a great QB .


Bringing in JD last year was a great idea. Our O line was going to include 2 true freshman, and I assume Kelly knew we had to have a guy that could scramble / run because there was no way we were gonna have time to sit and throw.

Having said that, JD has a ceiling and he’s already hit it. The heisman talks this year were ridiculous from the get-go.

Not saying we should’ve just moved on to Nuss after the end of last year, but JD was going to be a game manager at best. And that’s really all we should expect from him going forward.
Posted by Mobiletiggah
Mobile Alabama
Member since Mar 2021
3842 posts
Posted on 9/4/23 at 12:16 pm to
That had no effect on anything. Catching the football certainly would have.
Posted by tjohn deaux
GA
Member since Feb 2007
10348 posts
Posted on 9/4/23 at 12:18 pm to
Maybe he should get paid based on his effort and production. Maybe we need to write a contract where he is paid based on wins and losses. I bet his arse would have the team ready then.

He should give some money back.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
42044 posts
Posted on 9/4/23 at 12:18 pm to
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We went through this with O. Playing on emotion is a slippery slope. As you can see.



True but he wasn't saying that to the team, he said it on his radio show and it was in response to a question if memory serves. Not yelling or FU or rabble-rousing tone.

It's kind of ironic that Kelly will get crap for saying something like that when some of the same people (not aimed at you) will then make comments about McMahon not being emotional enough when coaching basketball.
Posted by Old Money
LSU
Member since Sep 2012
40999 posts
Posted on 9/4/23 at 12:19 pm to
4/5 of Kellys losses are Coach O tier. Just a total collapse, not even competitive
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
32631 posts
Posted on 9/4/23 at 12:19 pm to
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So it's development and coaching?


Part of it is just continued roster transition post-O. We hit big on several portal guys last year that helped to stabilize things. This year may not work out the same way, despite where some of them were ranked in the portal. They at least weren’t 100% ready to be SEC starters in week one on the road. Hopefully they get it together. We actually had a strong recruiting class, and a bigger class than Kelly’s first, but I’m not sure how many of them will make a big impact until later in the season. We need this portal class to pick up that slack this year and bridge the gap.

It’s week one, so we’ll see about development. Everyone is emotional as frick and wants to make grand pronouncements right now, but the team did develop a lot of the course of last season. If that happens again, then ok. If not, then there’s a problem.

That said, coming out of camp making a lot of mistakes is surprising and less than ideal. Other than the muffed kick, they were different mistakes than last year, but they still made a huge impact on the game.
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
37751 posts
Posted on 9/4/23 at 12:23 pm to
It’s not really about that one statement. It’s about what that statement could possibly represent. And it may not represent this at all, but it looks like the team was not mentally prepared for facing a serious challenge. That statement may not have reflected that at all. But it’s possible that it’s a piece of the overall feeling that we noticed from everyone. Going in very overconfident, and not being able to back it up could be a sign of lack of mental preparedness.

But, this could all just be a fluke. How many times have we done this dance? Just because the coaching fricked up big time on this season opener doesn’t mean that this is what we’re going to get going forward. Or maybe it is. We will see.
This post was edited on 9/4/23 at 12:27 pm
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
32631 posts
Posted on 9/4/23 at 12:24 pm to
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It’s semantics really. The point is if there is this huge talent gap between fsu and lsu, it’s the coaches fault FSU is not a team that should out talent lsu except on a rare occasion.


Go back to the off-season and look at our roster. I get that hindsight says we should have made a bigger play for Coleman, especially being from LA. But we all know what the bigger roster needs were, and that’s what they focused on. And those areas still look like they are barely patched together, partially because one guy got hurt and another can’t get his head out of his arse.
Posted by nctigers03
Member since Aug 2004
352 posts
Posted on 9/4/23 at 12:25 pm to
No doubt. He should have kept his mouth shut.
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
19075 posts
Posted on 9/4/23 at 12:28 pm to
He should taken a long look at his coordinators his staff is not helping.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
42044 posts
Posted on 9/4/23 at 12:37 pm to
quote:

It’s not really about that one statement. It’s about what that statement could possibly represent. And it may not represent this at all, but it looks like the team was not mentally prepared for facing a serious challenge. That statement may not have reflected that at all. But it’s possible that it’s a piece of the overall feeling that we noticed from everyone. Going in very overconfident, and not being able to back it up could be a sign of lack of mental preparedness.



Maybe. It looked like LSU was doing OK in the first half with the exception of those red zone trips. That had me worried and those worries proved warranted. If you look at the game stats, the only thing that FSU significantly outperformed LSU on was 3rd & 4th down conversions plus that muffed punt and time of possession.

This post was edited on 9/4/23 at 12:38 pm
Posted by nola2269
New orleans
Member since Nov 2018
507 posts
Posted on 9/4/23 at 12:40 pm to
This was game 15 of his tenure after taking over a team with 39 player and a team that had to start Jontre Kirklin at QB in a bowl game. Y'all forgot about that or what? I'm not saying success is guaranteed with him, the jury is still out, but give him a chance. Game 1 of season 2 and if he wins another 10 games... Then what? Disappointed sure, bad??? Not really given the circumstances. Let's see how this team adjusts given last night and judge then...
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
20624 posts
Posted on 9/4/23 at 12:40 pm to
F-cking embarassing. Like some dumb a-- moron.
And that folks is what $100 Million f-cking $$$ gets you - a smooth talking mediocre bullshite artist.
In the meantime, Saban melts down over a two loss season with both Ls in the final seconds of the games ...
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
11904 posts
Posted on 9/4/23 at 12:54 pm to
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on board with the BK hire and still am for now.


Me too, but:

1. We have to run a modern offense, and put players other than Daniels in position to succeed
2. We have to win recruiting battles
3.We have to be aggressive on D, and be creative with our best players (Perkins)
4. We have to get back to being confident, even borderline cocky, because we are bigger, stronger, faster (we've got a long ways to go in this dept, see step 2)
Posted by BhamTigah
Lurker since Jan 2003
Member since Jan 2007
17300 posts
Posted on 9/4/23 at 12:57 pm to
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My point is that fla st has a way more talented team than lsu plain and simple


First teams are pretty even. We actually should have had a bigger lead at halftime. Where we can't compete is in depth. A close game that turns into a second half whipping comes down to coaching adjustments and/or depth. I don't think starter vs starter talent was the problem.

ETA: I realize depth is still a talent issue.
This post was edited on 9/4/23 at 12:57 pm
Posted by SmackDaniels
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Mar 2007
15364 posts
Posted on 9/4/23 at 3:07 pm to
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Maybe the HC should refrain from saying we will beat the hell out of a team.


Go watch Tennis. I don’t want my coach to be nice.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
78122 posts
Posted on 9/4/23 at 3:10 pm to
quote:

IMO it does call into question, his ability to access talent


I guess I’m the only person who interpreted this differently.

To me, he was calling out his team for thinking they’re better than they are.
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