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re: Brian Kelly has a .723 win percentage
Posted on 10/21/25 at 12:57 pm to Tigerking69
Posted on 10/21/25 at 12:57 pm to Tigerking69
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What did people expect?
That by four years in we would be seeing a quality product on the field. Was that unrealistic?
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Posted on 10/21/25 at 1:06 pm to The Baker
quote:Exactly. Bebe not in this group.
That never happens to the best coaches.
Your catching on.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 6:21 pm to Mayhawman
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Your catching on.
Catching onto the fact that you’re an idiot.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 10:06 pm to Tigerking69
Pretty good winning percentage
Posted on 10/22/25 at 10:54 pm to lsufan0582
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we really should've been more curious as to why Notre dame fans were happy
I mean sure, but what fanbase doesn’t downplay a coach leaving?
Posted on 10/23/25 at 12:10 am to The Baker
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He can’t make a 12 team playoff at LSU
And that right there is it period.
Posted on 10/23/25 at 12:43 am to The Baker
What year? 2019... yes.. no other years
Posted on 10/23/25 at 2:17 am to Tigerking69
I would rather have a coach that goes 7-5 for 4 years in a row, then pops off for an undefeated season once every 5 years, than a coach that constantly goes 9-3 and an 8-4 every year.
Posted on 10/23/25 at 2:18 am to jwingert77
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Pretty good winning percentage
Not when you realize that he is 5-10 vs ranked teams. .333. That's bad. 0 excuse for that. Not sure if most of those were road games or not, but it seems that way because we don't often lose at home.
This post was edited on 10/23/25 at 2:19 am
Posted on 10/23/25 at 2:35 am to IM_4_LSU
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I am not saying hes burnt out but I don't know that the fire and drive is there either
This. I want the guy who called a brilliant 2pt play to shock Saban in OT and I no longer see him anymore. Hes regressed and it’s disappointing.
Posted on 10/23/25 at 6:51 am to tgdk11
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hes staring down a 7-5 or 8-4, season
It’s so cute that you think he’s gonna win anything other than WKU the rest of the way!
Posted on 10/23/25 at 7:03 am to Tigerking69
I do not care what his past record is. What’s this season’s record come mid December. Not looking good.
Posted on 10/23/25 at 7:31 am to SidewalkTiger
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we really should've been more curious as to why Notre dame fans were happy
Yes, and the perception is that Freeman is so much better than BK but the fact is he is still losing those same "easy" games every year that BK did. The national media salivates over Freeman but he has not taken ND any further than BK did.
I am the first one to admit that I thought BK would be great at LSU. However, I also admit it if I am wrong. We are stuck with him until we are not stuck with him anymore.
we really should've been more curious as to why Notre dame fans were happy
Yes, and the perception is that Freeman is so much better than BK but the fact is he is still losing those same "easy" games every year that BK did. The national media salivates over Freeman but he has not taken ND any further than BK did.
I am the first one to admit that I thought BK would be great at LSU. However, I also admit it if I am wrong. We are stuck with him until we are not stuck with him anymore.
Posted on 10/23/25 at 7:48 am to SidewalkTiger
Full disclosure – I’m an ND fan. Years ago, when LSU hired Kelly I began lurking here for intel on the situation. Truthfully, I found the site and banter back and forth so insightful and fun that I continue to return. You might say I’ve somewhat become an “fan” of LSU. The passion is second to none.
I want to address some points in this post from the ND perspective and 10 years with Kelly.
Marcus Freeman is beloved at ND for many of the reasons Kelly eventually became disliked – many of the reasons your fans are seeing today.
Freeman has embraced the ND culture (right or wrong) and has 100% embraced the University, fans, and uniqueness of the program. Unlike Kelly who constantly complained about the stadium, the pre-game player Mass, the academic requirements, the Independence, the natural grass, and the players required to live in dorms their first year, Freeman has made no excuses and has leaned into those aspects ND. With Kelly, it was always something else, not him. With Freeman it is always him, not the surrounding principles of ND.
When Kelly was hired at ND I was thrilled, and truthfully, I appreciated him and all he did to get ND back into a place of competitiveness and relevancy. (I still appreciate him) He was a great coach at the perfect hire for ND given their situation before he arrived – he’s a program builder. What eventually grew old was his inability to take the next step. In big games his players seemed to tense up and play tight. The gameplan always felt like an effort to “not lose big” against the top tier team rather than play to win. I believe his personality leads to a very tense, scared to make a mistake football team – something LSU has NEVER been.
With Freeman the team plays loose and fast. In the final few years of Kelly’s time, the very things LSU fans are now experiencing wore thin with the ND faithful and when you’re as unlikable as he is, the goodwill leash is shorter and loses compound that feeling even more. You can deal with an a-hole if you’re 12-0. You can’t when the L’s stack up.
Kelly wasn’t liked, so the only way to be liked was to win – In the end it was apparent he wouldn’t win the games like an Indiana, Georgia, Penn State, playoff games, or compete with Ohio State. Yes, ND lost the title game last year (most would have, OSU was loaded) but the season before they lost on a 1 second TD to the Buckeyes, and in every other big game they were right there in the end. Furthermore, ND as a brand to recruits and pundits is far more likable with Freeman than it was under Kelly. In today’s world of NIL and recruiting that is massive.
To summarize this long-winded response – Kelly is a good coach that can build a program, but he’s disliked and if you don’t win it’s not enough to overcome his press conferences and personality. LSU is in my opinion the most fun, loose, fast playing program in CFB. They (you all) deserve a coach that brings that back – not a politician who makes excuses and hits you with constant coach speak. It doesn’t take much to win at LSU and I don’t believe LSU needs to be rebuilt. Hell, in one year you could be in a title game with LSU. Kelly’s issue has always been likability and big games; two things LSU has based their entire existence and program on. LSU is better than Kelly and it’s simply not a fit.
Don’t kill me on here – I enjoy the board and the passion you all have. It’s what makes LSU and CFB great.
I want to address some points in this post from the ND perspective and 10 years with Kelly.
Marcus Freeman is beloved at ND for many of the reasons Kelly eventually became disliked – many of the reasons your fans are seeing today.
Freeman has embraced the ND culture (right or wrong) and has 100% embraced the University, fans, and uniqueness of the program. Unlike Kelly who constantly complained about the stadium, the pre-game player Mass, the academic requirements, the Independence, the natural grass, and the players required to live in dorms their first year, Freeman has made no excuses and has leaned into those aspects ND. With Kelly, it was always something else, not him. With Freeman it is always him, not the surrounding principles of ND.
When Kelly was hired at ND I was thrilled, and truthfully, I appreciated him and all he did to get ND back into a place of competitiveness and relevancy. (I still appreciate him) He was a great coach at the perfect hire for ND given their situation before he arrived – he’s a program builder. What eventually grew old was his inability to take the next step. In big games his players seemed to tense up and play tight. The gameplan always felt like an effort to “not lose big” against the top tier team rather than play to win. I believe his personality leads to a very tense, scared to make a mistake football team – something LSU has NEVER been.
With Freeman the team plays loose and fast. In the final few years of Kelly’s time, the very things LSU fans are now experiencing wore thin with the ND faithful and when you’re as unlikable as he is, the goodwill leash is shorter and loses compound that feeling even more. You can deal with an a-hole if you’re 12-0. You can’t when the L’s stack up.
Kelly wasn’t liked, so the only way to be liked was to win – In the end it was apparent he wouldn’t win the games like an Indiana, Georgia, Penn State, playoff games, or compete with Ohio State. Yes, ND lost the title game last year (most would have, OSU was loaded) but the season before they lost on a 1 second TD to the Buckeyes, and in every other big game they were right there in the end. Furthermore, ND as a brand to recruits and pundits is far more likable with Freeman than it was under Kelly. In today’s world of NIL and recruiting that is massive.
To summarize this long-winded response – Kelly is a good coach that can build a program, but he’s disliked and if you don’t win it’s not enough to overcome his press conferences and personality. LSU is in my opinion the most fun, loose, fast playing program in CFB. They (you all) deserve a coach that brings that back – not a politician who makes excuses and hits you with constant coach speak. It doesn’t take much to win at LSU and I don’t believe LSU needs to be rebuilt. Hell, in one year you could be in a title game with LSU. Kelly’s issue has always been likability and big games; two things LSU has based their entire existence and program on. LSU is better than Kelly and it’s simply not a fit.
Don’t kill me on here – I enjoy the board and the passion you all have. It’s what makes LSU and CFB great.
Posted on 10/23/25 at 8:26 am to Tigerking69
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He had a .743 win percentage at Notre Dame playing much easier schedules.
Easier, but not much easier, despite what folks here may think, if you look at the strength of schedule.
Posted on 10/23/25 at 8:40 am to Tigerking69
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He had a .743 win percentage at Notre Dame playing much easier schedules. What did people expect?
Most wins by an active coach and #12 in win percentage. BK should have been a slam dunk.
Posted on 10/23/25 at 8:58 am to lsufan0582
As we (nor Notre Dame fans) were even aware of this hire, how did anyone know the fans were happy to see him go before the hiring went public???
Posted on 10/23/25 at 9:58 am to ActusHumanus
Kelly is a slam dunk for most programs. The issue is what he brings to the table and what LSU fans expect and have been accustomed to do not match up. I know the term fit is tossed around but in this instance I believe it's the main factor. His solutions and style to building a program don't fit with the LSU philosophy and culture. You need loose, fast, edgy, almost cocky confidence. Kelly runs his program very cerebral and almost boring (Can be effective) but at LSU what seems to make that program tick (to me) is the opposite. At least that is how I view your program within the CFB world.
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